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I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by pastage »

2p3onf_Dfj wrote: post #292
pastage wrote: post #138

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The complete disinterest in international allies from the American public is troublesome. I recently was in a discussion about what kind of responsibility we can put on the residents of the US for this situation. A US lawyer answered "well the 25th amendment ties our hands, and we do a lot of protesting so no blame on us". The judgement on US citizens was pretty harsh. You guys have to work a lot harder to fix your i…

There is a way in which this whole situation has been revealing to me about how little some outside the US actually understand about US politics and civic structures, or alternatively have their own form of isolationism. The heterogeneity in the US — culturally and in terms of political-legal structures — is far greater than those in Europe and Canada seem to understand sometimes. This is now combined with a corrupti…

I do not think you understand, you have to start repairing things. You can not only be against something you have to stand up for something that is better. Your number of 90% support for Denmark and Greenland does not show in anyway.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by pastage »

chasd00 wrote: post #232
pastage wrote: post #138

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The complete disinterest in international allies from the American public is troublesome. I recently was in a discussion about what kind of responsibility we can put on the residents of the US for this situation. A US lawyer answered "well the 25th amendment ties our hands, and we do a lot of protesting so no blame on us". The judgement on US citizens was pretty harsh. You guys have to work a lot harder to fix your i…

> You guys have to work a lot harder to fix your issues. As an American, that's pretty funny seeing how allies of the USA are constantly hostile toward Americans at every turn (unless we're buying a tshirt or something) and have been for many presidential administrations. Why would Americans be interested at all in what allies have to say when it's always negative anyway? When someone tells you you're their enemy lon…

You answer your own post, almost everyone saw the US as an ally. That is the reason for trusting you, and why these posts are worrying. If we break economic and military ties, the alliance grows weaker.

You are right that there have always been a hostility against these kind of actions, but now you are doing it against allies. So you are breaking the trust.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by ric2b »

YetAnotherNick wrote: post #462
kaon_2 wrote: post #279

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Yes. It is both a little funny, and true. Often departments don't even want to start a software project if it is being perceived as "legal and IT are going to have all kinds of opinions on this". When we say everything runs in Europe, by European companies, it actually signals "there will be no problem with GDPR and data sensitivity, and your legal and IT departments won't complain, and the CEO will love it".

Those legal and IT departments of companies favours Microsoft and Amazon, as they are sure they won't get any issue with regulation, or if they do they are the ones who can have better legal representation than a small open source self hosted software. There is just no reason to believe European companies are any better in data privacy. I signed up for Hetzner once and they asked for my passport. Any American company…

You mention Microsoft at the same time that multiple EU governments are moving away from Windows and Microsoft Office and recommending businesses to do the same.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by ric2b »

sevenzero wrote: post #307
traceroute66 wrote: post #189

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> need all the business documents as well, like a privacy policy even if its just a small public app on the playstore And this is a bad thing why exactly ?!?!?! If you respect your users data and right to privacy then you've got nothing to hide by publishing an EU compliant privacy policy. It might be "just a small app", but I and many other people still very much still "do give a damn" about what the hell you do wit…

Because if I want to provide an app to like 5 people I know personally, I am soon forced to do so via the Playstore due to Google disabling sideloading on Android. So now I am forced to inform myself about all the bullshit documents I never cared for beforehand. Yes I know what I am allowed to do with my users data, no I don't send it to some data brokers, yes I already comply to privacy laws and whatnot. Just requir…

That's Google forcing you to publish your app publicly, not the EU.

If they allow you to side load you won't need to make the app publicly available and so won't need a privacy policy.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by philipwhiuk »

data-ottawa wrote: post #642
philipwhiuk wrote: post #197

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So do lots of providers. But the US law says if an American has access they can snoop as much as they like wherever the data physically is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act

Since 1Password is Canadian, does that apply? It’s not if an American has access, it’s US based companies, no?

It's probably if an American employee can be subpoenaed to do it. So whether they have a US office probably.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by alchemism »

frumplestlatz wrote: post #547
crote wrote: post #542

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The issue with voter ID laws isn't with the concept of having to identify yourself at the ballot box, it is with the way it is implemented . For example, in my EU country I can vote with my passport, my drivers license, or my ID card, and they accept documents which are expired for up to 5 years. For context: this is less restrictive than the documents anyone is technically required to carry every time they leave the…

State ID (usually a driver’s license) is the defacto universal ID system. It’s not hard to get, and you need it to do everything from filling a scheduled prescription, buying alcohol, entering a bar, flying on a plane, or purchasing cold medicine. You literally cannot function as an independent adult without one. You also need to show it — along with a second form of ID — to be hired at a job. Anyone claiming a state…

Buying a gun is not a right, actually.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by NicoJuicy »

ranguna wrote: post #601
NicoJuicy wrote: post #467

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If you want to sell in Europe now or in the future to any governement ( city, provence, country, ... ). It means EU sovereign cloud. That's literally the primary concern.

I'm not sure you read the question right. You can host American software on a EU sovereign cloud.

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