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Appearing productive in the workplace

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Re: Appearing productive in the workplace

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title is misleading. Nobody spends 2 months on a project to appear productive. They spend 2 months because they feel like they are relevantly challenged, maybe feel competent, but definitely feel appreciated - both by the system/Corpus and by middle managers, who are not hired as quality assessors and thus easily duped by “progress” and promise of easy money, which is their real job, and from that point of view naturally rewarding towards those, who dangle administrative rewards in front of their noses.

All of it is a learning process. I don’t know: Can you look for a better job? Or are you in the position to not-expose yourself to management and tell them the problem? Or are you certain they would not believe you? Could you adequately substantiate your claim?

You won’t, maybe, have saved your future and wages with this firm, but seeing you are kinda bypassing the issue of fast gratification - that real competence IS, when adequately challenged - you may by omission reach a deadine from being real competence and old-school: hunkering down and getting shit done by true grit and new ideas and imagination and taking chances and kinda loving it all as you hate the shit, but you still love it!

Maybe you need to learn something too: Speaking up against the weaknesses in the chain, which was never the You’s, but the incompetents - but now appearance and riding that wave might cost you manegerial trust and respect, because it doesn’t look easy and it takes longer time…?

re writing: Practice writing up against a certain number of key presses. Trying to keep up with your brain is a lost cause - you need to win back control, put down som stakes, define the arena - by # of key presses.

Ever heard the expression: Sorry its so long, but I didn’t have time to write it shorter?

Re: Appearing productive in the workplace

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> The first is when novices in a field are able to produce work that resembles what their seniors produce [...]. > The second is when people generate artifacts in disciplines they were never trained in. There is a third shape. Experts who have become so reliant / accustomed to AI that it dilutes their previously sharp judgment and, importantly, taste . I am seeing more and more work produced by experts which seems st…

> An over-engineered solution (complete with CLI, storage backend, documentation, unit tests) for a trivial problem which that person would've solved by an elegant bash one-liner only 3 years ago. Importantly, I think AI companies are motivated towards the overengineered solutions as they increase the buyer's token spend. I'm not sure how we can create incentives that optimize for finding the 'right' solution, which…

I dunno, on a subscription one would assume that minimizing token spend would actually be in their interest. Even for API calls I'm not entirely convinced they're profitable.

Re: Appearing productive in the workplace

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Taking a distance uni class now to maybe swap away from dev work and my submitted works that are to be reviewed and commented on by other students all come back with AI generated feedback and it's making me go insane. If I needed AI feedback I'd go ask an AI but for any communication now it's a cointoss if you're getting a human reply. /rant

I wonder could you ask for a video instead of a text, like a screen recording with a voice recorder. Harder to fake.

Yeah, but I guess harder for the professor to check up on too. It's a course on a specific kind of creative writing so human feedback would be QUITE helpful instead of AI responses about how good parts are.

Re: Appearing productive in the workplace

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post #501

> The first is when novices in a field are able to produce work that resembles what their seniors produce [...]. > The second is when people generate artifacts in disciplines they were never trained in. There is a third shape. Experts who have become so reliant / accustomed to AI that it dilutes their previously sharp judgment and, importantly, taste . I am seeing more and more work produced by experts which seems st…

One of the top 4 ICS in my (major, public) company just posed a 100 lines of AI slop (which I and others read, and found to be meaningless) in a conversation about a major pain point where they are supposed to be the expert. It's like people have totally turned off their brains.

Re: Appearing productive in the workplace

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This had me crack up! I used to have a colleague (senior engineer) who never cared to write a single line in Pull Request descriptions, as if other people had to magically know what he meant to achieve with such changes. Now? His PRs have a full page description with "bulleted summaries of bulleted summaries"!

My colleague had a problem with commit messages, so now they're all written by AI. I don't know what depth of hell he managed to get the prompt from, but they're all now in the format "Updated /path/to/file: fixed issue in thingamabob", which means they're all at least 200 characters long and half of it is the file path, an absolutely pointless thing to put in a commit message. The best part is that whenever you look…

Out of curiosity, with it taking up that much of the message, is it the local file path on their computer?

Re: Appearing productive in the workplace

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We need to make companies financially liable for data leaks.

They technically are, but at least in the US we're allergic to "anti-business" punitive fines and liability, so it ends up as a cost of doing business. Wouldn't want an anti-business law to scare away a company leaking everybody's data. Think of the economy!

Yep, widespread security holes are literally a national security issue, but making things convenient for companies is more important.

Re: Appearing productive in the workplace

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You have it backwards. Why is profit a goal? It's nolever a goal in and of itself, it can only ever be an instrumental goal. "With profits, we can achieve ". If profit is the main goal of all economic activity, then we are doomed to destroy humanity and the environment.

Profit is the main goal of all economic activity. Economy is an activity of making and moving money around, which is only possible if you make profit.

The goal of economic activity is allocating resources to human needs.

Money is an instrument to facilitate this, as is profit. Neither of them is the end, they are means. They are also not the only possible means.

Also, you can definitely move money around with making a profit. How is that impossible? Are you telling me no money changes hands if I, e.g. sell something at a loss, or to break even.

Please, think about it for a second.

Re: Appearing productive in the workplace

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if they have an idea that will make money or improve something, sure, also hire better and fire faster

New here? Ideas are fucking cheap. “I have an amazing idea!” Let me guess, you just need a coder, any coder will do they’re all the same, to turn your amazing idea into a product, and you’ll give me a couple of bucks to do it. lol.

not all ideas are amazing and its easy to tell that

Re: Appearing productive in the workplace

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A healthy company already needs to have processes for dealing with employees that aren't meeting expectations that don't involve revoking benefits like PTO. Those should be suitable for issues like this rather than crafting punishments specific to the nature of what specifically is going wrong.

What that would be for example?

An example of how a healthy company would deal with an employee who isn't meeting expectations? I honestly didn't think that needed an explanation, but okay:

The manager should be giving feedback to the employee, ideally as close to the moment when the expectations are not met (e.g. someone acting poorly in a meeting, take them aside after the meeting and explain what they did that was bad and what would have been a better way to ask). The manager should offer help or resources if appropriate. If the issue persists even after it's addressed a couple times, they should bring it up in their 1:1s with the employee and mention that it's been a recurring problem and try to understand why it's happening and see if there's a way to avoid the issue entirely. I've never been a manager, so I don't know exactly when and how this sort of thing needs to involve record-keeping with HR, but at the very least there should be some form of meeting notes already been kept for their conversations in their 1:1s with employees to track things like this (and plenty of other things; maybe the employee has given feedback to them about other teammates, non-teammate coworkers, or even the manager themself; all of this is important to keep track of for accountability purposes). The manager should make it clear that the issue persisting might affect their ability to remain employed, and if it continues to happen, termination for cause is a last resort.

Re: Appearing productive in the workplace

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Almost accurate It's not "the route" But "a route"

Almost accurate, but it's »Almost accurate. It's not "the route", but "a route".«.

The untucked period really increases the meta.
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