This is only for citizen not refugees/immigrants so both MEA and NA folks can chill.
German men 18-45 need military permit for extended stays abroad
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Why aren't refugees/immigrants conscripted over citizens?
Even if they are included, they wouldn't join up. More British Muslims joined ISIS than the British military. https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/19/magazine/her-majestys-jih... >
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#654Men are expected to die for their countries that treat them as trash.
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Ukraine has been violating that for young men since the start of its war.
In an attempt to preserve the rights of Ukrainian citizens in the long run. Surrendering to Russia would have more impact than the draft does. The UN acknowledges this conflict to some extent; https://www.ohchr.org/en/conscientious-objection
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Shockingly sexist policy. And as per usual because its harmful to men no one cares.
The constitution made it impossible to make a less sexist law, because it says that women cannot be forced to military service. It is an old document, and it is based on old role models. Modernizing the constitution would require 2/3 majority, and the government was already struggling with making a law at all. This is an explanation, not a justification.
with the right level of public exposure citizens would surely have been able to put enough pressure on the government to make this happen. But instead zelensky kept repeating the talking points that we should not be concerned about the war because the risk had not changed since 2014. Near-zero effort was made to evacuate ukrainians living near the russian border or those who would be in the way of russian troops. The intelligence had been there for at least six months before the war began
> and the government was already struggling with making a law at all
what do you mean?
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#658Here's the main reason I think most people are going to try to avoid a draft. Politicians have destroyed Germany and its future while they enriched themselves and their rich friends, for example [1]. They have lured in a flood of migrants against the will of many natives. They have been transferring wealth of the natives to the migrants by printing money to give to the migrants, thereby generating inflation while overloading all kinds of services. Even medium-sized cities in the east of Germany are infested with unwanted, culturally incompatible, sketchy male immigrants loitering around in groups, making people feel unsafe in their own cities. These people are disproportionately more responsible for violent crime, such as knife attacks or gang rape. You could halve gang rape by throwing out certain migrant groups. Yet nothing effective has been done by the government. Recently, there was a case in a youth club in the notoriously high-immigrant Berlin district Neukölln, where a 16-year-old girl said she was raped by a Muslim male. She said this was video recorded and used by a group of boys to extort her. The Jugendamt (child protective services) was informed, which is reported to have refused to file a charge with the police "because it marginalizes the perpetrator group" and "the Muslim boys are already under enough police scrutiny".
Who wants to fight for that? There is little patriotism. The rich live lavishly off their Rheinmetall stocks, many refugees live very well from welfare and child benefits, and the immigrant criminals live off their ill-gotten gains without effective prosecution or punishment. None of those will be drafted; only the ordinary German will. Many of them are furious; the others are misinformed or uninformed. If the politicians try to draft the really angry people, the angry people might decide to pay them a visit instead.
[1] (in German) https://correctiv.org/thema/aktuelles/das-spahn-netzwerk/
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They dont need now. Germany is getting ready for being invaded by Russia, basically. They are also building mandatory military service.
Yes, the previous time they were getting ready it was because those pesky Poles being an inch away from invading the Third Reich.
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>Political representation in just about every country (including Germany) already skews pretty heavily towards men. There is absolutely nowhere in the West where this is true. Even the suggestion that a politician advocates for men's rights would be the end of their career, meanwhile they endlessly twerk for women's votes with all of the right campaign promises of cash and prizes. Some countries even now have ministe…
This is… just false. The US 2024 election saw the election of a whole regime of very male chauvinistic types, and that’s being as neutral and charitable as I can be. In the EU there’s a number of fairly far right parties with adjacent views polling well with a chance to win significant representation in future elections. Asia is very heavily male led, probably more than the West. Same with the Middle East. Around the…
For example, most politicians in the West are White. However, zero of them dare to openly advocate for White interests. Many of them openly champion the interests of other racial groups, often to the detriment of Whites.
Likewise, most politicians in the West are men. However, zero of them advocate for men. Many of them openly advocate for and prioritise the interests of women. They are quick to condemn any of their peers who might actually represent men's interests.
So, yes, a lot of politicians are White men like me. However, I genuinely feel as if I have zero political representation. Zero. And they take every opportunity at press conferences and photo ops to rub it in my face.