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The Singularity will occur on a Tuesday

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Post by bheadmaster »

MarkusQ wrote: post #503
bheadmaster wrote: post #246

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> It works in precisely the same way that you can walk from "here" to "there" by taking a step towards "there", and then repeating. It's funny how, in order to explain one complex phenomenon, you took an even more complex phenomenon as if it somehow simplifies it.

Sorry, can't tell if that's sarcasm or not. I wasn't referring to the biomechanical process of walking, I was referring to the process of gradient descent, which is well understood and yes, quite simple.

If that was true, knowing how elementary particles work would give us understanding of the whole universe, in which case no other science would exist. But other sciences do exist, ergo, you're wrong.

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Post by mlrtime »

measurablefunc wrote: post #565
andsoitis wrote: post #559

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What’s an example of work that does not deal with actual problems?

Online influencers, podcasters, advertisers, social media product managers, political lobbyists, cryptocurrency protocol programmers, digital/NFT artists, most of the media production industry, those people w/ leaf blowers moving dust around, political commentators (e.g. fox & friends), super PACs, most NGOs, "professional" sports, various 3 letter agencies & their associated online "influence" campaigns, think tanks…

Lol, you just listed things you don't like from a very privileged urban (my assumption) living space.

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Post by kristiandupont »

baxtr wrote: post #409
austinjp wrote: post #389

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Russell's chicken (or turkey) would like a word. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey_illusion

I love that you brought this up. Chickens are killed ALL the time. It’s a recurring mass event. If you were a smart chicken you could see that pattern and put it into a formula. In contrast, the end of Humanity would be a singular event. It’s even in the name… And that is fiction / speculation in comparison. It’s not backed by any data. Human survival over 300,000 years by contrast is. I mean it’s fine to dream thing…

The point of that thought exercise is to show that reasoning by induction is flawed. As best I can tell, you discount it with further induction.

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Post by mlrtime »

measurablefunc wrote: post #418
tim333 wrote: post #402

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Most bubbles have a peak and crash. "The Bitcoin bubble" keeps peaking and crashing and then going on to a higher peak.

Mining rigs have a finite lifespan & the places that make them in large enough quantities will stop making new ones if a more profitable product line, e.g. AI accelerators, becomes available. I'm sure making mining rigs will remain profitable for a while longer but the memory shortages are making it obvious that most production capacity is now going towards AI data centers & if that trend continues then hashing capac…

Are you lumping in all blockchains here or just bitcoin?

Because other networks don't have this problem.

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Post by a96 »

thebruce87m wrote: post #15
ecto wrote: post #7

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I didn't even realize - I hope my consciousness is uploaded with 64 bit integers!

You’ll regret this statement in 292 billion years

Meh, I think I'll have enough zen to handle the rollaround. It'll be something new.

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Post by Nursie »

tim333 wrote: post #644
kylegordon wrote: post #610

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> Safe to ignore anything they have to say. And that of anyone who quotes them too

The everyone living on benefits as a prototype for the singularity was a bit tongue in cheek.

Fair enough, it’s so hard to tell these days.

I do wish me dad would stop watching that channel though, it can’t be any good for his heart.

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Post by mlrtime »

stego-tech wrote: post #64
jacquesm wrote: post #38

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> “here’s why replacing or suggesting the replacement of human labor prior to reforming society into one that does not predicate survival on continued employment and wages is very bad” And there are plenty of people that take issue with that too. Unfortunately they're not the ones paying the price. And... stock options.

History paints a pretty clear picture of the tradeoff: * Profits now and violence later OR * Little bit of taxes now and accelerate easier Unfortunately we’ve developed such a myopic, “FYGM” society that it’s explicitly the former option for the time being.

We have taxes now though, how much is enough?

Hint: The answer for the government is, it's never enough. "little bit of taxes" is never what we had.

Seriously though, I wouldn't mind "little bit of taxes" if there were guaranteed ways to stop funding something when it's a failed experiment, which is difficult in government. Because "a little bit more" is always wanted.

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Post by Dumblydorr »

joe_the_user wrote: post #563
adastra22 wrote: post #60

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We are already long past that point…

Yeah, it's easy to see the singularity as close when you see it as "when human loose collective control of machines" but any serious look at human society will see that human lost collective control of machines a while back ... to the small number of humans individually owning and controlling the machine.

Since Luddites smashed textile machines in England three hundred years ago, it seems technology didn’t care, it kept growing apace due to capitalism. Money and greed fed the process, we never stood a chance of stopping any of it.
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