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Re: I replaced Windows with Linux and everything's going great

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Post by redeeman »

leptons wrote: post #236
redeeman wrote: post #176

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hardware that doesnt have builtin drivers to windows are a piece of junk? i think you'll find thats most hardware then

You are hilariously wrong. Seriously, what century are you living in? It's been a very long time since I had to install a specific driver for any piece of hardware on Windows, and I go through a lot of hardware . Every piece of hardware I had is automatically installed and configured without any hassle whatsoever.

no, you are wrong. Windows is able to install many drivers by downloading it for you, but we talked about bundled IN windows.

Re: I replaced Windows with Linux and everything's going great

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Post by sagarm »

Nathanba wrote: post #621
rickcarlino wrote: post #260

Linux is one of the last strong defenses for the idea that people should control the computers they own. On desktops and servers, root access is normal, and attempts to take it away do not work because software freedom is well established. On phones, that never happened. There is no real, mainstream “Linux for mobile,” and the result is a world of locked-down platforms where things like “sideloading” are treated as s…

What I don't understand is why it is so much effort to use linux on a phone. Surely these 8 core ARM monsters these days should be more than enough to handle a full kernel. Hopefully it's not a driver issue where manufacturers only contribute the necessary drivers to the android kernel, not the linux one.

Android is running on Linux. It's not the kernel that's the problem, it's the application layer.

Re: I replaced Windows with Linux and everything's going great

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Post by sagarm »

mft_ wrote: post #376
lpcvoid wrote: post #330

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Perhaps you could have checked if the firmware was installed? Most distros have non free firmware in their packages, it just needs to be installed.

Or maybe the operating system should just work reliably for (at least) the basics? Or if it can’t, at least give an indication why? Blaming a new user like this is one of the cultural reasons why the ‘year of the Linux desktop’ has always been n+1.

I tried a clean install of Windows on a lunar lake laptop and it couldn't even find the disk. This is a device that ships with Windows!

It's just not feasible to have 100% out of the box hardware compatibility.

Re: I replaced Windows with Linux and everything's going great

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Post by grogenaut »

topocite wrote: post #596
grogenaut wrote: post #486

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Agreed. AMD just works for me on linux. My problem is that I am addicted to 6+ monitors and top end gpus... nvidia just seems to hate linux for top end setups. Which is sad, windows just handles my dumb 5060+5090 setup easily. Gaming on linux has gotten way better, but I still can't gigure out how to get some games working. So I'm stuck between using linux + sway / i3 which I looooove... and not being able to get the…

Linux Mint works great with nvidia cards. It has a great driver manager. It is the only distro I found after getting a laptop with a RTX card that just works. It has worked flawlessly too after 8 months of use.

Does it work with two and sway though?

Re: I replaced Windows with Linux and everything's going great

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Post by ErroneousBosh »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #649
ErroneousBosh wrote: post #586

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The same hardware works flawlessly running Linux.

It works so far . That means nothing. Different memory areas, different patterns of bus access, hardware usage and CPU activity. And don't forget different hardware drivers, for that matter. However much Windows 11 sucks, BsoDs are vanishingly unlikely to be caused by Windows itself. They haven't managed to degrade it to that extent. At least not yet.

I would expect that kicking seven shades of shit out of it with video editing software would be harder work than just attempting to boot to a desktop.

Re: I replaced Windows with Linux and everything's going great

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Post by tmtvl »

0xperke wrote: post #44

For all who switched to Linux: which distro did you choose and why? Fedora: wanted to have the newest kernel and updates due to new hardware - so far i am really satisfied; the only issue i have is that the printer does not work everytime… as a workaround i print with my iphone instead.

When I switched back in 2012 I had used an Ubuntu live disk to rescue some files from my borked Windows 7 install. After reinstalling Windows 7 I was annoyed that it didn't have ethernet drivers so I decided to just install Ubuntu. When the Amazon lens controversy happened I started distro hopping and now I bounce between OpenSUSE and Arch. If I wasn't so insistent on cutting edge software I'd probably be using Mageia, which is stable as anything.

Re: I replaced Windows with Linux and everything's going great

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Post by leptons »

redeeman wrote: post #651
leptons wrote: post #236

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You are hilariously wrong. Seriously, what century are you living in? It's been a very long time since I had to install a specific driver for any piece of hardware on Windows, and I go through a lot of hardware . Every piece of hardware I had is automatically installed and configured without any hassle whatsoever.

no, you are wrong. Windows is able to install many drivers by downloading it for you, but we talked about bundled IN windows.

No, just no. Across dozens of machines with different hardware configurations, I've never had Windows download a driver. It just doesn't happen. But neither of us can provide any proof, so this comment thread isn't going to go anywhere.

Re: I replaced Windows with Linux and everything's going great

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Post by s1mplicissimus »

topocite wrote: post #596
grogenaut wrote: post #486

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Agreed. AMD just works for me on linux. My problem is that I am addicted to 6+ monitors and top end gpus... nvidia just seems to hate linux for top end setups. Which is sad, windows just handles my dumb 5060+5090 setup easily. Gaming on linux has gotten way better, but I still can't gigure out how to get some games working. So I'm stuck between using linux + sway / i3 which I looooove... and not being able to get the…

Linux Mint works great with nvidia cards. It has a great driver manager. It is the only distro I found after getting a laptop with a RTX card that just works. It has worked flawlessly too after 8 months of use.

Is it also doing great with the 58xx driver series that is now mandatory on arch for models a couple years old? I've been having severe issues since then to the point where I had to borrow an AMD GPU from a friend just to get my working station up and running again

Re: I replaced Windows with Linux and everything's going great

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Post by leptons »

tonyedgecombe wrote: post #585
leptons wrote: post #224

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If you want the "Home" version of Windows, you'll get ads and crap, but the cost will be free/low. If you don't want the ads and need a more professional setup, then you can pay for Windows "Pro" version. They also have server versions that cost a lot more, so yes, Microsoft can and does make money from their OS. No, it's probably not as much as they make from Azure now, but in the past it made them a lot of money. I…

The Pro version doesn't remove the adverts.

What "adverts"? I've been on Pro for over a decade on a dozen machines and have never seen one single "advert".

Re: I replaced Windows with Linux and everything's going great

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Post by jm4 »

pjmlp wrote: post #570
jm4 wrote: post #513

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Someone has to pay for it because it’s expensive to develop. There’s a ton of money in Linux just like there is in proprietary operating systems. There are like 4000-5000 kernel contributors and most of them are doing this work on some company’s payroll. There’s an enormous amount of resources going into Linux to the point where a proprietary OS couldn’t possibly keep up. The real genius of Linux is the economic mode…

Except many of those contributions never land upstream. Hence why we usually with the cloud provider distros. Example, what powers DGX OS isn't fully available to GNU/Linux users other than a binary blob.

That’s the wrong way to look at it. Instead, look at how much does land upstream. Linux moves at an incredible pace.

Edit: BTW the figure I cited are contributors to mainline.

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