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Re: Eat Real Food

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Are they going to subsidize real food also? Maybe help get people access to it?

Or just talk about how good it is while they let people subsist on the most calories they can get for their dollar?

Also - great... another website as "governance". Put out a press release - it's solved!

Re: Eat Real Food

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Tyson foods and other meatpacking companies lobbied and funded RFK... Here's industry reports https://www.nationalbeefwire.com/doctors-group-applauds-comm... https://www.wattagnet.com/business-markets/policy-legislatio... And straight up lobbying groups https://www.nationalchickencouncil.org/new-dietary-guideline... https://www.meatinstitute.org/press/recommend-prioritizing-p... Lobbying groups, putting out press rel…

No reason to believe their numbers either given the shenanigans they have engaged in. We need to be smart and not knee jerk into feel good memes though. Local gardens and community gardens have higher resource use per acre than large farm ops. Commercial farm infrastructure is far more resilient and lasts longer while consumer gardening gear is cheap and disposable. Consumer gardening gear manufacturers factories bur…

That's how Japan works...how horrendous ?

Re: Eat Real Food

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There’s a restaurant in Las Vegas, the Heart Attack Grill, which sarcastically plays on this trope. > It has become internationally famous for embracing and promoting an unhealthy diet of incredibly large hamburgers. Customers are referred to as "patients," orders as "prescriptions," and the waitresses as "nurses." All those who weigh over 350 pounds are invited to unlimited free food provided they weigh themselves o…

Real sugar Coca-Cola is delicious though, and while this may just be a personal anecdote, real sugar soda always makes me feel full and satiated, while I've been able to drink several cans of corn syrup soda in a sitting before, I can't imagine doing that with several cans of real sugar soda. The calories are pretty much the same!

Was very confused by this comment, until I looked it up. It seems, sweet beverages and candies in the U.S. are not sweetened with sucrose (table sugar) like in most places on earth. Instead, they use fructose (fruit sugar) syrup.

The more you know.

Re: Eat Real Food

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"We're ending the war on protein" Weird branding and culture war stuff aside, this is probably the least objectionable thing this health administration has done. That said, I don't know if this would actually move the needle much. The Japanese diet includes so much more processed foods and less protein and they still live longer, healthier lives. I think the ultimate factors are still portion sizes, environment, acti…

It's just all macho nonsense to make them think they're going to turn everyone into navy seals or something, the same reason they install gyms and pull up bars at airports...it makes a certain demographic excited that this is the end of gay / fat / weak people or something.

Re: Eat Real Food

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Moderately amused at the quote "We are ending the war on protein." In my experience, every single brand in recent years has been coalescing around the idea of making protein bars, drinks, prominently labeling the amount of grams of protein are in items, etc. I'm not opposed, as protein seems to be a good target to prioritize, but claiming there's a war on protein just seems so out of touch to the point of absurdity.…

> protein bars, drinks, prominently labeling the amount of grams of protein Most of which are loaded with crazy amounts of sugar to make them taste good. Have you ever looked at the label on a cup of non-plain "Greek" yogurt? (Which is 90% of the yogurt aisle.)

Disagree...collegen bars are pretty low on sugar, and they taste awesome. There is no "war on protein".

Re: Eat Real Food

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post #594

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Isn't every single policy a result of some kind of lobby group? Are you saying that it's corrupt because it's been influenced by a lobby group? Would all policies then be corrupt to some degree? Or is it corrupt because you disagree with the lobby group?

I'm a realist. All these comments were saying "oh this is good they're doing this for my personal health" and I thought "oh, no no no. That's not how this works..."

Why do the two have to be mutually exclusive though? Why can't something healthy also not also happen to benefit corporations/lobby groups?

Re: Eat Real Food

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> grass fed, free range... Because agribusiness doesn't make money with those. Agribusiness absolutely makes money off of those. In fact they had a hilariously easy time adapting to the consumer trend because all they had to do to label a cow “free range” or “grass fed” was change the finishing stage to a lower density configuration instead of those abominable feed lots you see along highways. The first two stages, r…

> Grain finished beef became popular in the 1800s and consumers in the West have strongly preferred it since. Don't conflate the US and the "west".

> Don't conflate the US and the "west".

I only vaguely said “the West” because I didn’t want to get into the complexities of subsistence farming, regional quirks, and pedantics like “soybeans hulls are often considered roughage”.

About a third of beef in the world is truly grass finished and two thirds of that is subsistence farmers who can’t afford the grain. Most of the rest comes from Australia, Brazil, and New Zealand because it’s more competitive to leave them in pasture than import the grain.

As much as you may want to hold your nose up at the US, the (vast) majority of beef sold in the world is grain finished and has been for a long time. It’s just more economically competitive and people strongly prefer the taste and texture.

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