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Ford kills the All-Electric F-150

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Re: Ford kills the All-Electric F-150

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Post by red-iron-pine »

orthoxerox wrote: post #598
hopelite wrote: post #585

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Americans are not allowed to have better quality, lower priced Chinese vehicles because they have to suffer the incompetence, failure, abuse, and plunder by their ruling class due to … the decades of incompetence, failure, abuse, and plunder of their parasitic and alien ruling class. It is easy to understand what the tariffs are attempting and why, but what supporters don’t get is that at the very least it’s all wron…

Or because UAW members are not willing to work 996 for Chinese wages.

don't forget all of the pollution

Re: Ford kills the All-Electric F-150

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Post by 1970-01-01 »

But they didn't kill it? Everyone is missing the other side of the coin. It will still exist as a battery electric vehicle with the addition of a generator. You can still plug it in and drive just on battery pack power from the grid.

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Post by malfist »

tenuousemphasis wrote: post #538
malfist wrote: post #492

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I justified the lightning purchase to my partner by pointing out having an equivalent whole house battery backup in Tesla power walls would be more expensive than the truck

Have you tried supplying power to your home yet?

We've not hooked up the transfer switch yet but we have ran a lot of extension cords during an ice storm last year and kept all our aquariums going, all 700 gallons of them

Re: Ford kills the All-Electric F-150

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Post by malfist »

markdown wrote: post #555
tenuousemphasis wrote: post #538

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Have you tried supplying power to your home yet?

Shhh, his wife might read this.

My only fear is that when I pass away, he'll sell my telescopes for what I said they cost. Jk jk, he bought me my most expensive one

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Post by NetMageSCW »

kalleboo wrote: post #631
chickensong wrote: post #445

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'99 F-150 with >250k on original engine and transmission here. Going to pick up 900 lbs of rock tomorrow. Suspension is pretty poor, but it still pulls hard under load. I'd like to upgrade to a newer model, but the '99 refuses to die.

> Going to pick up 900 lbs of rock tomorrow Is there any car that can't do that though? That's just the weight of 5 adults.

I don’t think I could get 900lbs of rock in most cars.

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Post by conorcleary »

1970-01-01 wrote: post #652

But they didn't kill it? Everyone is missing the other side of the coin. It will still exist as a battery electric vehicle with the addition of a generator. You can still plug it in and drive just on battery pack power from the grid.

Media does media

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Post by zeristor »

kimos wrote: post #626
tekno45 wrote: post #320

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The F-150 is a great power bank that comes with a very useful set of 4 tires and a steering wheel for a truly portable charging experience.

A local couple runs a hot food stall at outdoor markets all over the city by backing theirs up to the stall and plugging in all the kitchen things they need into the outlets in the bed.

The number of outdoor market stalls I’ve seen with diesel generators, noisy, smelly and polluting. Happy to see people using all electric.

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Post by conorcleary »

Thlom wrote: post #554
sroerick wrote: post #319

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Other replies here have covered 'work truck' better than anything I'd come up with but I'll also add that some of the reasons people purchase trucks is: - To be able to help your friends move. - To be able to purchase supplies and move big things over long distances. - If you raise horses, you have to have a truck to pull your trailer. - If you own a tow behind or fifth wheel, you have to have a truck to pull it. - I…

The rest of the world does all of this without widespread truck ownership. The reason trucks are so widespread in the US is a combination of culture and regulation, not any special needs Americans have.

Trucks have been produced en masse for near a hundred years, and the majority of the world has various levels of access to a whole range of those creations, parts, modifications, blah blah blah meaning there are lots of trucks in lots of the world, widespread. Blanket statements

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Post by NetMageSCW »

cyberax wrote: post #144
roadside_picnic wrote: post #116

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> One is that pickups are a weirdly-politicized lifestyle choice in the US Based on my personal experience traveling, there's a more practical reason for the political divide. I spend a good portion of my life in rural parts of the US these days, where most of the residents are pretty conservative. But these are also parts of the country where I get nervous when I'm on 1/4 tank of gas. If you're routinely out in plac…

Try this map: https://supercharge.info/map , it has a feature called "range circles". If you set it to 50 miles, you'll see that most of the country is well within 50 miles of the nearest supercharger. Including almost all of Texas. At 100 miles of range, you only have a couple of blank spots. With third party chargers, there's really only one blank spot in Montana. At this point, the range is already a solved proble…

Try looking at the bubble I live in around Martinsville VA. Fortunately if I had a BEV, most trips would be toward chargers though often not very conveniently. A common trip is to Meadows of Dan on 58W - where would you charge?

In general charger penetration appears slower on the East coast to me.

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Post by NetMageSCW »

rootusrootus wrote: post #238
EgregiousCube wrote: post #151

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“There’s at least one spot within 100 miles where you can wait 20 minutes to get enough charge to get to the next charger” is not an argument that will convince someone to give up the convenience of the gas station.

The convenience argument works for a small segment of the population that road trips a few hundred miles at a time regularly. For the rest of us, EVs are far more convenient. I don't ever go to a gas station, and every day I start out with 320 miles of range. I stop at the EV equivalent of a gas station two or three times a year . I've saved a lot of time not having to get gas every week.

You have a BEV with 400 miles of range when at 100%?
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