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Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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Re: Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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Does Google pay for your PC, power or internet connection?

No, but they do pay the costs of hosting/serving the videos, which I thought was the relevant analogy to the service being used when driving on a road and there being billboards next to the road.

Is the department of transportation owned those billboards and used them to fund the roads I would feel 0% more obligated to look at them.

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While this is not an unreasonable way one could define "piracy", surely you must be aware that your definition is significantly more expansive than the one in common use?

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The common use means violation of copyright, specifically distribution rights.

Payment is not a good indicator. Tons of free content has no payment, and a good chunk of pirate content is paid for.

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I really don't understand why there are not sites that curate Youtube videos? Like, present basically the same recommendation UI, but just hand pick cool videos around different topics? Hell, it could even be like Reddit with voting... but the algorithmic recommendation engine that Youtube uses is NOT aligned with my interests. It's aligned ONLY with my behavior. I want to learn! I want to explore! I do NOT want to g…

You could just... make a subreddit for it, right? Youtube videos still have URLs that can be linked to from anywhere. On your personalized level: Don't let the algorithm work against you; instead, help it work for you. If you're being inundated with NBA videos and want fewer of them, then pick one or more of them and declare that you're "Not interested." This slows the flood of any over-abundant topic.

Thanks yeah thats a fair point. I just get a sense that incentives are misaligned. I pay $30/mo for family premium primarily to keep my kids away from ads, but Youtube still finds more ways to squeeze us by steering us around for retention instead of to what we actually want.

Re: Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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A bad thumbnail doesn't mean bad content. If I rejected them upfront I'm sure I could find something to replace those channels that meets the bar of "interesting", but I'd rather judge videos on the actual video and focus on how much I enjoy watching.

We may have a difference of opinion. It is my own opinion that a creator who deliberately creates a bad thumbnail and a baited title is a bad creator, and that (by extension) I do not wish to consume their content. There's plenty of other fish in the sea that aren't introducing themselves to me with one or more damned lies. I'm pleased to go watch what they're doing, instead.

If that's enough of a sin to be a bad creator, I think it does become difficult to find replacements after a while.

Also a bad thumbnail isn't a damned lie. Clickbait usually just means vague and flashy.

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This is less like paying for a gym membership and more like paying some kind of fat-fairy not to come inject you with fat while you’re sleeping every night. Paying for things that help you is good. Paying someone not to try to scam you is… fucked up.

Well, considering using YouTube is something you do out of your own, free will ... isn't it a bit like going to McDonalds, deliberately not ordering the water and the salad, and then taking legal action because they made you fat? If you know a platform is not good for you, AND you are negatively affected by it ... the right move is not to use it.

“Here’s some free food”

Cool!

“And a side of literal shit, plus a slip of paper with the number of my cousin who’ll try to swindle you”

… coo… ool.

Quietly tosses the shit and phone number in the trash, keeps the free food

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A non-comprehensive list of things youtube tells you to self censor or you will be financially punished, or punishes you for showing or telling despite not being listed in their community guidelines in any way Swears (recently backed down somewhat on this) Anything to do with guns at all, whether you are right wing or vocally and loudly left wing. Mummmifying a chicken on a science channel gets you demonitized. Chemi…

And everything to do with covid https://rumble.com/vt62y6-covid-19-a-second-opinion.html https://rumble.com/v28x6zk-sasha-latypova-msc.-nsa-team-enig... (and so on; many other links) I don't understand the reluctance of people to click Rumble links. I'd love to link you to stuff on Youtube but TPTB have decided you're not allowed to see it (this should be a very narrow category of things and those I linked and others…

Specifically, the COVID policies massively impacted people trying to spread official info about covid even.

Which is the primary problem of any youtube policy: It's not real, because they treat the output of some underspecced ML model as gods truth.

There was a period where you could not say the word covid without getting downranked, even in passing

Even if you believe it was important to limit the spread of misinformation about covid, youtube did not do that, and made things worse

I don't like Rumble, but Brandon Herrera I think has created a new platform specifically for Guntubers, and I don't very much like the man's content but I hope it succeeds because the policies around guns are just absurd and broken, and generally do not even remotely match the claimed policy.

Similarly, the guy from Armchair Historian tried to go his own way, but I think that failed.

The problem is not "any moderation", or "the left", like rumble seems to think. The problem is that Google's claimed policies are not their actual policies, and their claimed policies are fairly stupid and restricted for all audiences, especially if you aren't American, and are driven entirely by advertiser preferences and dice rolls.

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We may have a difference of opinion. It is my own opinion that a creator who deliberately creates a bad thumbnail and a baited title is a bad creator, and that (by extension) I do not wish to consume their content. There's plenty of other fish in the sea that aren't introducing themselves to me with one or more damned lies. I'm pleased to go watch what they're doing, instead.

If that's enough of a sin to be a bad creator, I think it does become difficult to find replacements after a while. Also a bad thumbnail isn't a damned lie. Clickbait usually just means vague and flashy.

In my world, I define myself what I consider to be a sin.

My Youtube feed has an amazing abundance of great content. I'm learning stuff with it all the time from creators that aren't prima facie lying scumbags.

Others are free to keep the likes of Scotty Killmer and Linus employed. That's fine.

They're dead to me, and I do not miss them in my life.

Re: Someone at YouTube Needs Glasses: The Prophecy Has Been Fulfilled

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Remember when the Youtube app overrode the AppleTV screensavers, to show their own screensavers if Youtube was paused. Any other app, you leave a video paused, the OS screensaver will come on. Those beautiful, aerial screensavers that are better than any screensaver I've ever seen in all my decades of working with computers. So of course the Youtube app had to block them with their own shitty variant. They have no ta…

Your comment is past tense - does that mean they’ve stopped doing this? Please, Lord. I had to set my ATV to go to screensaver in a ridiculously short amount of time to preempt the YouTube one.

It was in place for a couple of days, tops, before they reverted it. The backlash was immense and immediate. And with good reason: in addition to the obvious reasons why it sucked, the YouTube screensavers just looked terrible. I couldn't believe how bad they were.

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Anyone else notice that most youtube ads are really bad . Seeing a product in a youtube ad now causes me to be more likely to believe it's a ripoff. Things like a cheap $5 fan being sold for $60 as roughly: "Super efficient A/C that will save you $100s on your electricity bill and can cool a room down in just minutes"

> Anyone else notice that most youtube ads are really bad. Claiming that (youtube) ads are bad is a tautology at this point. What else can be expected from something competing for what is left of a user's attention at the very lowest end of a market already overflooded with crud? The question should rather be: why would one voluntarily let one's well-being be polluted by such invasive, parasitic crap. There is nothin…

If I were into AI, right now I'd be working on ad blocking.
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