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Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by viking123 »

bobviolier wrote: post #439
baal80spam wrote: post #355

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Ah, makes sense why I need to use an extension for that: > To use this feature, you must be located in the US

I just don't get this. Google has SO MANY THINGS that are US only. While most other companies release things to everyone (like OpenAI). How does Google expect to compete with OpenAI globally if they keep limitting the rest of the world?

They don't, the Gemini crap is dead in the water and only people who care about it are hackernews people or some weirdos. For normies ChatGPT equals AI and that's that, they already won by the brand alone.

When normies hear Gemini, they cringe and get that icky feeling.

It didn't help that when Gemini came out it was giving you black founding fathers and Asian nazis.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by lmf4lol »

iandanforth wrote: post #560

While all the security / privacy concerns in this thread are spot on I must say that this thing works . I had it do a proximity based search for me in Google Maps and then populate a new Google Sheet with this data and it just went off and did it right the first time. Now obviously Google could probably do this much better once they get around to it, but this is the first truly usable browser automation tool I've eve…

I am not sure it *works*. I just tried it on the BILD homepage (a German tabloid with a lot of images instead of text), and it was pretty bad at navigating it. It needed a lot of hints to find a particular article, selected multiple times the wrong article, and in the beginning even, it didn't realize the webpage was in German.

It works well on pages that use a lot of text though, and especially on pages like hacker news. I wonder if this will open up a new stream of work for devs: "Make our web-page AI friendly".

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by viking123 »

ninininino wrote: post #478
bobviolier wrote: post #439

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just don't get this. Google has SO MANY THINGS that are US only. While most other companies release things to everyone (like OpenAI). How does Google expect to compete with OpenAI globally if they keep limitting the rest of the world?

What's not to get? Talk to your political representatives about reining in the EDPB if you want access to cutting edge features. Or if you are not in the EU, spend more money I guess and become an attractive market.

You think normies even know what Gemini is LMAO. No one except some hackernews users and weirdos know it.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by kumarvvr »

sathackr wrote: post #607

I hope they start to-reinvent the way things are accessed so that I can stop being the product. You can already ask ChatGPT for product recommendations and they(at least in what they say) don't take product placement or ad money. It would be incredibly refreshing to have a portal into the current internet in which I am not the product. I'd pay them substantially to be an unbiased assistant rather than some conglomera…

> I hope they start to-reinvent the way things are accessed so that I can stop being the product

Every token incurs a cost.

They are giving away a browser for free.

Do the math.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by fakwandi_priv »

nostromo wrote: post #553
sheepscreek wrote: post #475

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There was a phase when ChatGPT would respond to everything I said, even in the same request with something like “..here’s the thing that you asked for, of course, without the fluff.” Or blah blah blah “straight to the point.” Or some such thinly veiled euphemisms. No matter how many times I told it not to talk like that, it didn’t work until I found that “core memory”.

I have the same issue. I often get annoyed with ChatGPT yammering on and on, so I repeatedly told it to cut to the chase and speak more succinctly. Now it just says "I'll get right to the point..." and then still yammers on and on unabated.

Might not be the best fix but other than disabling memory I changed the setting ‘ChatGPT personality’ to ‘Robot’ and I’ve always had straight to the point answers (so far).

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Post by Mashimo »

sathackr wrote: post #607

I hope they start to-reinvent the way things are accessed so that I can stop being the product. You can already ask ChatGPT for product recommendations and they(at least in what they say) don't take product placement or ad money. It would be incredibly refreshing to have a portal into the current internet in which I am not the product. I'd pay them substantially to be an unbiased assistant rather than some conglomera…

Don't they have a deal with Walmart?

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Post by monerozcash »

fragmede wrote: post #100
srcreigh wrote: post #78

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OpenAI pins certificates on their macOS chatgpt app, so it’s hard to monitor the data they’re collecting.

The problem with sharing the workaround is that OpenAI employees undoubtedly read HN, so if someone were to describe how to do that, it'll get blocked pretty soon after (if there even is one).

Disabling certificate pinning on the ChatGPT app is not complicated if you've got previous experience dealing with such things on iOS.

The bigger issue is defeating the app attestation, but also not impossible.

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Post by anhner »

ninininino wrote: post #478
bobviolier wrote: post #439

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just don't get this. Google has SO MANY THINGS that are US only. While most other companies release things to everyone (like OpenAI). How does Google expect to compete with OpenAI globally if they keep limitting the rest of the world?

What's not to get? Talk to your political representatives about reining in the EDPB if you want access to cutting edge features. Or if you are not in the EU, spend more money I guess and become an attractive market.

"Ask your politicians to allow foreign companies free reign with users' data" is certainly a wild take.

It's google's choice to forgo privacy and thus a huge market like the EU. Other companies, like OpenAI, seem to manage fine.

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by worldsavior »

dyauspitr wrote: post #639
worldsavior wrote: post #636

The day where human art is redundant has arrived, or at least very close. Soon we will be speaking with AIs, and AIs will be speaking with our AIs while we supervise. No art, no appreciation, only self-involvement. Now many probably are not into these AIs features, but later newcomers will. The generations get dumber because we live on these platforms that make us dumber. That's why apps like Instagram or TikTok are…

The people getting dumber thing is going to be very real. For any kind of analysis, any document writing, any sort of creative work really I immediately pull out chatGPT and then maybe refine its output. The kids are never going to learn how to do most of these things.

That's not good behavior in my opinion. Where's the hard work so you can get yourself some dopamine?

Re: ChatGPT Atlas

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Post by entropi »

noir_lord wrote: post #283
mentalgear wrote: post #6

So openAI's answer to Perplexity's Comet. I'm afraid this will be the future, as these AI-browsers do truly bring value. But they open up the gate for a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you, and can even control everything on your behalf. I really hope open-source Browsers like Firefox follow up soon with better alternatives, like on-device LLMs to counteract the "all in the cloud" LLM approac…

> But they open up the gate for a single Big Tech Winner that truly knows everything about you, and can even control everything on your behalf. Do not want, I want none of it and no part of it. I'll use Lynx before I use that. AI is already infesting search results directly (til I adblocked it), writing the crap on whatever page I just landed on and led me to turn unhook up to "just show the damn video" on YT. I've y…

I feel the same way.

Yet people are using AI for therapy, listening to AI-written novels read by AI, gladly watching AI-made slop. There seems to be real actual demand for it. Feels like total insanity to me; but here we are and facts are facts.

I guess whether the emperor is wearing clothes or not never actually mattered.

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