Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran'; • Hacker News Board

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by EmiDub » Tue, Sep 23, 2025, 3:53 PM UTC

Can someone give me an explanation for why Mike Cardwell, who lives in the UK, blocks Iranian IPs for “your decision to arm Russia with drones so that they can indiscriminately massacre civilians.” but does not block US or UK IPs for their decision to arm Israel?

The answer would seem to me to be racism – he values Ukrainian lives more than Palestinians and considers non-white citizens in non-democratic countries responsible for their country’s actions, but white citizens of democracies innocent.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by figmert » Tue, Sep 23, 2025, 3:57 PM UTC

miningape wrote: post #644

figmert wrote: post #593

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Every international body had checked, and confirmed that Iran had no intention of building nuclear weapons. Even to this day. Even after what Israel and US did. Netanyahu has been saying Iran in minutes away from building nuclear weapons since early 2010s. Never mind those facts. Let's say they are building weapons. What gives the US the right to build enough nuclear weapons that they could destroy the world multiple…

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Is the US government is so much more stable than Iran's?

The US has been directly or indirectly involved in all conflict in the middle east in the past few decades, and the instability in the region is due to the US's failed foreign policy.

Maybe the US should stop pretending they know what they're doing. The US can't keep domestic terrorism at bay, why are they trying in a foreign setting?

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by arunc » Tue, Sep 23, 2025, 3:57 PM UTC

Very sad to see this. Most educated Iranians I've met hate Islam and their government that supports its extreme ideologies. I hope the people in this world develop the sense of morality without associating it with any religion or culture, for that's the true purpose of being compassionate humans.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by beej71 » Tue, Sep 23, 2025, 3:57 PM UTC

I appreciate this very human submission to HN. There are a lot of good people in this world living under a government they don't agree with.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by nmilo » Tue, Sep 23, 2025, 3:58 PM UTC

chabska wrote: post #221

adastra22 wrote: post #20

OP, some context from the other side might be helpful. Yes, there are fines for American companies if they do business with Iranians. That's how sanctions work as I'm sure you're aware. But the story doesn't stop there. If an American finds out they are transacting with a sanctioned individual, or citizens of a sanctioned country like Iran or North Korea, the stakes go up: $1M USD fine and up to 20 years in federal p…

> Nobody should be expected to take that risk I've seen this sentiment so many times from westerners. You all say this, and yet at the same time you levy economic sanctions on countries like Iran, Cuba, and North Korea, with the justification that by making their citizens lives horrific, you encourage them to rise against their government. Their authoritarian militaristic government that doesn't care for human rights…

This the exact same as the email from the post, but the other way around. Either both normal Iranians are responsible for arming Russians and normal Americans are responsible for sanctions, or neither are. In general I don’t like blaming people for the actions of their government.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by beej71 » Tue, Sep 23, 2025, 3:58 PM UTC

arunc wrote: post #653

Very sad to see this. Most educated Iranians I've met hate Islam and their government that supports its extreme ideologies. I hope the people in this world develop the sense of morality without associating it with any religion or culture, for that's the true purpose of being compassionate humans.

Indeed, all of the Muslims I've met hate extremist, violent ideologies.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by figmert » Tue, Sep 23, 2025, 4:00 PM UTC

breppp wrote: post #646

johnisgood wrote: post #636

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... and on top remember Iraq's alleged "weapons of massive destruction (WMD)"?

You are of course aware that Iraq used chemical weapons against Iran and the Kurds killing thousands of people

Hi I'm Kurdish. I'm 100% aware, heck my mother still cries in front of me remembein some of the horrors she saw. I'm also aware that we, the Kurds, have arguably benefited the most from that war. But that does not negate the fact that the US lied about Saddam having WMDs.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by phendrenad2 » Tue, Sep 23, 2025, 4:01 PM UTC

squigz wrote: post #419

elAhmo wrote: post #163

> Iranian IPs are blocked here, due to your decision to arm Russia with drones so that they can indiscriminately massacre civilians. USA is lucky to be in position where others are too afraid to apply this reasoning to them, knowing they do literally the same with their closest ally.

It would be interesting to see someone try to use the Internet while blocking all American IPs

You mean like the entire country of China?

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by ezoe » Tue, Sep 23, 2025, 4:02 PM UTC

chabska wrote: post #221

adastra22 wrote: post #20

OP, some context from the other side might be helpful. Yes, there are fines for American companies if they do business with Iranians. That's how sanctions work as I'm sure you're aware. But the story doesn't stop there. If an American finds out they are transacting with a sanctioned individual, or citizens of a sanctioned country like Iran or North Korea, the stakes go up: $1M USD fine and up to 20 years in federal p…

> Nobody should be expected to take that risk I've seen this sentiment so many times from westerners. You all say this, and yet at the same time you levy economic sanctions on countries like Iran, Cuba, and North Korea, with the justification that by making their citizens lives horrific, you encourage them to rise against their government. Their authoritarian militaristic government that doesn't care for human rights…

Well, we let China grow but there is no democracy or human right in China.

Re: Delete FROM users WHERE location = 'Iran';

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Post by hearsathought » Tue, Sep 23, 2025, 4:05 PM UTC

1234letshaveatw wrote: post #578

tuveson wrote: post #452

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> But even in the US, no one I've ever had the option to vote for (and who had even a remote chance of winning) would ever consider lifting these sanctions. So I am similarly powerless to change this situation. Not saying Obama’s foreign policy was perfect, but he did do the Iran nuclear deal which lifted some sanctions, and started the process of normalizing relations with Cuba. Like so many other things, these were…

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> enabling Iran to develop nuclear weapons and fund terrorist groups

And yet we allow israel to develop nuclear weapons and fund terrorist groups. At least in iran's defense, they aren't engaging in genocide like israel is.

> For the life of me I can't understand why it was undone.

Zionist domination of america. We're always told china this or russia that, but we don't waste trillions of dollars fighting for china or russia.