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Re: iPhone Air

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Post by rifty »

The 16e is 167 grams, where the Air is 165 grams. It feels like the Air is to the 16e what the Pro is to the standard titled iPhone — the expensive version.

Which makes the marketing feel a bit incongruent with what we've gotten here. It's not noticeably more lightweight than what is currently offered, it's less featureful than the 17, but more expensive than the 17 (albeit perhaps prettier).

It seems like engineering failed to make a true superlight in its class despite narratively trying to re-evoke what we really did experience with the original MacBook Air. Instead we got an elegant up sized 16e priced like a Pro.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by forgotoldacc »

r0fl wrote: post #41
beoberha wrote: post #6

Just do not understand the market for this one. The current size of phones is a solved problem. Nobody is asking for these things to be thinner. Most people use cases and are happy to add some thickness for battery life. Besides, the camera "plateau" makes it all futile.

I’m asking for thinner What do you need battery life for? Aren’t you in your house or office or car near a charger most of the day? Do you spend 90% of your waking day in the middle of an open field far from any sort of charging capabilities? Why would I add more weight to a phone so I don’t have to put it on the charging MagSafe puck that is inches away from me at all times

I travel internationally pretty often. I also use my phone as a GPS when driving. Both cases have resulted in me having my battery at under 10% and desperately hoping I have enough power to get to where I need to go. And always having a charger or backup battery of some sort is just inconvenient.

For the people who are at home 90% of the time, they're probably not using a phone the whole time. They'd be better served by a desktop.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by brookst »

AdventureMouse wrote: post #582
aurareturn wrote: post #58

It has A19 Pro. A19 Pro has matmul acceleration in its GPU, the equivalent of Nvidia's Tensor cores. This would make future Macs extremely viable for local LLMs. Currently, Macs have high memory bandwidth and high VRAM capacity but low prompt processing speeds. Give it a large context and it'll take forever before the first token is generated. If the M5 generation gets this GPU upgrade, which I don't see why not, the…

> If the M5 generation gets this GPU upgrade, which I don't see why not, then the era of viable local LLM inferencing is upon us. I don't think local LLMs will ever be a thing except for very specific use cases. Servers will always have way more compute power than edge nodes. As server power increases, people will expect more and more of the LLMs and edge node compute will stay irrelevant since their relative power w…

Couldn’t you apply that same thinking to all compute? Servers will always have more, timesharing means lower cost, people will probably only ever own dumb terminals?

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by neither_color »

manacit wrote: post #471
ManBeardPc wrote: post #328

I want an extra thick model instead, let’s call it iPhone Travel (or Ultra?). Just thick enough so the cameras are no longer sticking out. Give me an all-week battery instead of an all-day one. Slim down the power usage and give a power saver mode that actually does make a difference. Let me go on a weekend trip in nature or festival without having to carry extra hardware or having to look for public charging station…

Personally, I really like being able to use lightweight MagSafe batteries instead of having a thicker iPhone. I used to agree with you, but the tech has gotten ridiculously good the last couple of years. With something like https://www.apple.com/shop/product/HRY02LL/A/anker-maggo-pow... , you get a magsafe battery that doubles the life of an iPhone and can be independently recharged, and is so slim that I can put it…

The downside with these is that in scenarios where you need the extra juice, like say a guided tour all day where you'll be taking a lot of photos and putting it in your pocket, they tend to run hot and drain faster. Then you're carrying an dead extra battery. You get more mileage with a power bank + cord.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by makeitdouble »

apparent wrote: post #152
minimaxir wrote: post #148

The bumper is back! I was one of the weirdos who liked it unironically for the iPhone 4 back in the day, antennagate prevention aside. https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MH004ZM/A/iphone-air-bump... It's $39, but if it's indeed rigid as the description implies, then it may be a legit option for drop protection without compromising the thinness.

Won't it still significantly add to the thickness, at least in terms of making one-handed typing harder?

IME it's pretty comfortable to use.

The sides can be made grippier and the back of the phone left slippery, so the in-out of pocket experience is nice, while the grippier parts fit in the palm when in use.

The added thickness on the border is also a welcome affordance, and as your fingertips are on the thinner back it feels thin still.

To me it's kinda the best of both world.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by sbinnee »

They introduced N1 network chip. I noticed "thread" technology along with wifi and bluetooth. Tbh, it's first time I heard of this tech. Could anyone enlighten me what this "thread" wireless technology is and its impact?

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by mountainriver »

jdprgm wrote: post #187

Can someone that is actually interested in this explain the appeal? Thin on its own I get but thin with a giant bump 100% defeats the whole point for me. Seems clear at this point there is little hope of them engineering their way into thin cameras.

I think they are appealing to the Razor crowd /s

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by bapak »

rifty wrote: post #651

The 16e is 167 grams, where the Air is 165 grams. It feels like the Air is to the 16e what the Pro is to the standard titled iPhone — the expensive version. Which makes the marketing feel a bit incongruent with what we've gotten here. It's not noticeably more lightweight than what is currently offered, it's less featureful than the 17, but more expensive than the 17 (albeit perhaps prettier). It seems like engineerin…

You fail to mention that the 17 and 16e don't only differ by weight. Miniaturization is costly.
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