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At some point far in the future, we don't need an economy: everyone does everything they need by themselves, helped by AI and replicators. But realistically, you're not going to have a personal foundry anytime soon.
pretty sure top 1% of say USA already owns much more than that
There’s a simple flaw in this reasoning: Just because X can be replaced by Y today doesn’t imply that it can do so in a Future where we are aware of Y, and factor it into the background assumptions about the task. In more concrete terms: if “not being powered by AI” becomes a competitive advantage, then AI won’t be meaningfully replacing anything in that market. You can already see this with YouTube: AI-generated vid…
That’s the fundamental issue with most “analysis”, and most discussions really, on HN. Since the vast vast majority of writers and commentators are not literal geniuses… they can’t reliably produce high quality synthetic analysis, outside of very narrow niches. Even though for most comment chains on HN to make sense, readers certainly have to pretend some meaningful text was produced beyond happenstance. Partly becau…
"I may not be a gynecologist, but I'll have a look."
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Governments are not the source of wealth. They are just a requisite component to allow people to create it and maintain it.
This doesn't pass the sniff test, governments generate wealth all the time. Public education, public healthcare, public research, public housing. These are all programs that generate an enormous amount of wealth and allow citizens to flourish.
The thing that blows me away is that I woke up one day and was confronted with a chat bot that could communicate in near perfect English. I dunno why exactly but that’s what felt the most stunning about this whole era. It can screw up the number of fingers in an image or the details of a recipe or misidentify elements of an image, etc. but I’ve never seen it make a typo or use improper grammar or whatnot.
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If it became magic smart, then I don’t see why we couldn’t use it to enhance ourselves and become Transhuman?
There are a number of reasons you might not be able to. Most likely? It's ridiculously expensive and you're poor.
I'm skeptical of arguments like this. If we look at most impactful technologies since the year 2000, AI is not even in my top 3. Social networking, mobile computing, and cloud computing have all done more to alter society and daily life than has AI. And yes, I recognize that AI has already created profound change, in that every software engineer now depends heavily on copilots, in that education faces a major integri…
What else is needed then?
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Because otherwise you'd have to convince AI-owners and select professionals to let go of their wealth to give a comfortable and fulfilling life of leisure to the unemployed. More likely it will look like the current welfare schemes of many countries, now add mass boredom leading to unrest. Sam Altman has expressed a preference for paying people in vouchers for using his chatbots to kill time: https://basicincomecanad…
> Because otherwise you'd have to convince AI-owners and select professionals to let go of their wealth to give a comfortable and fulfilling life of leisure to the unemployed. Not necessarily. Such forces could be outvoted or out maneuvered. > More likely it will look like the current welfare schemes of many countries.., Maybe, maybe not. It might take the form of UBI or some other form that we haven’t seen in practi…
Could.
> So many assumptions. There is no need to just assume any particular distribution of boredom across the future population of the world. Making predictions about social unrest is even more complicated
I’m assuming that previous outcomes predict future failures, because the forces driving these changes are of our societies, and not a hypothetical, assumed new society.
In this world, ownership, actual, legal ownership, is a far stronger and fundamental right than any social right to your well-being.
You would have to change that, which is a utopian project whose success has been assumed in the past, that a dialectical contradiction of the forces of social classes would lead to the replacement of this framework.
It is indeed very complicated, but you know what’s even more complicated? Utopian projects.
Sorry but I see it as far more likely that the plebes will be told to kick rocks and ask the bots to generate art for them, when asking for money for art supplies on top of their cup noodle money.
>We are not there, yet, but if AI could replace a sizable amount of workers, the economic system will be put to a very hard test. Moreover, companies could be less willing to pay for services that their internal AIs can handle or build from scratch. Nor is it possible to imagine a system where a few mega companies are the only providers of intelligence: either AI will be eventually a commodity, or the governments wou…
Sorry this doesn't make sense to me. Given tier one is much richer and more powerful than tier two, any natural resources and land traded at tier two is only at mercy of tier one not interfering. As soon as tier one needs some land or natural resources from tier two, tier two needs are automatically superseded. It's like animal community bear human civ
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Because otherwise you'd have to convince AI-owners and select professionals to let go of their wealth to give a comfortable and fulfilling life of leisure to the unemployed. More likely it will look like the current welfare schemes of many countries, now add mass boredom leading to unrest. Sam Altman has expressed a preference for paying people in vouchers for using his chatbots to kill time: https://basicincomecanad…
> mass boredom leading to unrest we must keep our peasants busy or they unrest due to boredom!
You would like to learn to play the guitar? Sorry, that kind of money didn’t pass in the budget bill, but how about you ask the bot to create music for you?
Elites also get something way better than keeping people busy for distraction… they get mass, targeted manipulation and surveillance to make sure you act working the borders of safety.
You know what job will surely survive? Cops. There’ll always be the nightstick to keep people in line.