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Claude can now search the web

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Re: Claude can now search the web

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DonHopkins wrote: post #523
ForTheKidz wrote: post #497

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If chatgpt is scraping the web, why can they not link tokens to source of token? being able to cite where they learned something would explode the value of their chatbot. At least a couple of orders of magnitude more value. Without this chatbots are mostly a coding-autocomplete tool for me—lots of people have takes, but it's the tying into the internet that makes a take from an unknown entity really valuable. Perplex…

That's asking for the life stories and photos and pedigrees and family histories of all the chickens that went into your McNuggets. It's just not the way LLMs work. It's an enormous vat of pink slime of unknown origins, blended and stirred extremely well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_slime

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Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by yorkeccak »

tcdent wrote: post #102

Searching the web is a great feature in theory, but every implementation I've used so far looks at the top X hits and then interprets it to be the correct answer. When you're talking to an LLM about popular topics or common errors, the top results are often just blogspam or unresolved forum posts, so the you never get an answer to your problem. More of an indicator that web search is more unusable than ever, but inte…

founder here. solved this problem. old news mate. https://exchange.valyu.network

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by HlessClaudesman »

tcdent wrote: post #102

Searching the web is a great feature in theory, but every implementation I've used so far looks at the top X hits and then interprets it to be the correct answer. When you're talking to an LLM about popular topics or common errors, the top results are often just blogspam or unresolved forum posts, so the you never get an answer to your problem. More of an indicator that web search is more unusable than ever, but inte…

If only search engines weren't also in the business of inserting unverifiable AI assertions into our information ecosystem.

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by yorkeccak »

yorkeccak wrote: post #652
tcdent wrote: post #102

Searching the web is a great feature in theory, but every implementation I've used so far looks at the top X hits and then interprets it to be the correct answer. When you're talking to an LLM about popular topics or common errors, the top results are often just blogspam or unresolved forum posts, so the you never get an answer to your problem. More of an indicator that web search is more unusable than ever, but inte…

founder here. solved this problem. old news mate. https://exchange.valyu.network

AI-native search api to retrieve over web/proprietary content - full semantic search (e.g. we indexed all of arxiv), reranking built in, simple pricing, cheap

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by zk108 »

yorkeccak wrote: post #652
tcdent wrote: post #102

Searching the web is a great feature in theory, but every implementation I've used so far looks at the top X hits and then interprets it to be the correct answer. When you're talking to an LLM about popular topics or common errors, the top results are often just blogspam or unresolved forum posts, so the you never get an answer to your problem. More of an indicator that web search is more unusable than ever, but inte…

founder here. solved this problem. old news mate. https://exchange.valyu.network

We’re giving away free credits to try out our platform — no card required. If you’re building with AI and need quality data, we’d love your feedback!

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by simonw »

The search index is provided by Brave: https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/21/anthropic-use-brave/

- Brave is now listed as a subprocessor on the Anthropic Trust Center portal

- Search results for "interesting pelican facts" from Claude and Brave were an exact match

- If you ask Claude for the definition of its web_search tool one of the properties is called "BraveSearchParams"

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by sshine »

sumeno wrote: post #641
sshine wrote: post #637

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The amount of mental gymnastics people will go through because they dislike a controversial billionaire is nuts

I don't know man, it doesn't take many mental gymnastics here https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1724908287471272299 https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/14/technology/elon-musk-x-po... https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/elon-musk-x-twitte... I could keep going but there's really no point

Somehow you have convinced yourself that posting enough small things that could suggest that Musk is a nazi, but don’t really, add up to one convincing argument that he is.

No, just post one good summary or obviously revealing incident. And if you point to the salutes, which triggered the whole thing, they’re obviously not sufficient by themselves. You have to at least hear what he has to say. Did you?

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by simonw »

dunefox wrote: post #657

A bit OT: does anyone have experiences with Mistral AI as a comparison to OpenAI or Anthropic? I would like to stay with a European company, if they're somewhat equivalent.

I really like the Mistral openly licensed models - Mistral Small 3 is my current favourite local model to run, but only because I've not spent enough time with the brand new Mistral Small 3.1 to recommend it yet (I expect it will be promoted to my favourite local model soon.)

Their user-facing product at https://mistral.ai/ seems good to me - it uses Brave for search (same as Claude does) and has a "canvas" feature similar to Claude Artifacts. I've not spent enough time with that to evaluate if it could be a good daily-driver or not though.

My hunch is that Claude 3.7 Sonnet is still _massively_ better for code, based on general buzz online and a few benchmarks I've seen.

Re: Claude can now search the web

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Post by darkhorse13 »

tcdent wrote: post #102

Searching the web is a great feature in theory, but every implementation I've used so far looks at the top X hits and then interprets it to be the correct answer. When you're talking to an LLM about popular topics or common errors, the top results are often just blogspam or unresolved forum posts, so the you never get an answer to your problem. More of an indicator that web search is more unusable than ever, but inte…

This is basically AGI because that's what we humans do.
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