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Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

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Re: Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

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With Spotify app, some issues seem to be due to Spotify themselves. For example, even when you explicitly download music to your watch, the app needs network connection to start playing. This seems to be explicit design decision on Spotify's part.

Likely a condition from IP holders to make sure the play is counted and paid for.

Authentic user activity is Apple’s greatest asset to its partners.

Re: Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

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I've heard it all before, both of these are simple to refute. Apple designed the USB-C connector, they knew it was an option. But as is Apple tradition, they created a new licensed serial and power connector specifically for their phones to promote MFi, their arbitrary USB DRM. Apple could have switched to USB-C at any time; they had no issue shipping millions of peripherals and Macs with them onboard. But they didn'…

> You don't ever have to leave the Apple App Store, but your preference has no right to enforce an artificial limitation onto other users. So... just buy an Android? This is not an artificial limitation, it's an express preference that the vast majority of iOS users have voted for. > The Mac as a product would not exist without third-party software distribution The Mac is a completely different product servicing a co…

Both your statements are just arbitrary You are not representative of all iPhone users.

Re: Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

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I guess I’ll take the contra here on messages integration — moving a message over BLE to untrusted hardware and worse accepting them back into iMessage is a massive, massive change in the security boundary and therefore security architecture and therefore security promises that apple makes on iMessage. I do not believe average smartwatch users understand what they’d be doing if they got this. I do not believe vendors…

And I'll be the contra to your take: the iMessage ecosystem is so closed that everyone without iphones can barely even interact via sms with iphone users. This is overall such a huge problem that it makes the closed ecosystem security solution not a practical solution

Nope, SMS works. Just fine. Apple rightly warns you that you are in a lower security environment by adding a bit of visual friction. This is true EVEN IF you are using RCS, because European laws require termination and inspection when RCS messages “interoperate” and are sent to other providers.

Re: Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

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I probably dont get your sarcasm. But I never had a problem with Lightning. In the long run, I like the switch to USB-C... But when I got my first iPhone, USB-C wasn't invented yet, so... Also, I like the AppStore for its reviews, and would actually NEVER activate an alternative appstore. No need to weaken my security on purpose. I know, its apparently an unpopular opinion here, but that is mostly because many people…

Yup, Apple made Lightning because USB-C wasn't a thing yet and MicroUSB is awful. Lightning is a whole lot better than MicroUSB, and they've been using it since 2012 . MiniUSB B was pretty OK, Micro was just way too thin to be stable and would snap off frequently, in addition to being not very secure and hard to orient. Mini was thicker though, so while it worked fine for the HTC Apache and other Windows Mobile phone…

Why didn't they they work with the other actors to create a common standard 13 years ago? You know why, because they don't care about their users! And they even tried to stop the move to a standard many years later when the lightning connectors were outdated, making it even more clear.

Re: Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

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None of this comment chain makes sense… how is this relevant when Apple operates across hundreds of jurisdictions? Most of which don’t allow users to waive rights based on a prompt. So Apple would still have liability anyways for grandma getting scammed, regardless of how expertly worded the prompts are. Which entails extra customer service costs, handling lawsuits, etc… that someone has to pay for.

Why would Apple be liable for these things? There are existing phones in every market that allow such things without any liability issues.

In which jurisdictions are there no court cases whatsoever regarding similar and related issues?

Re: Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

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I am saying folks who use Linux do not know how to utilize their time well. It’s tongue in cheek at the commentary to the GP but hope that makes more sense to you.

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Stop taking things so seriously and understand my comment was playful as I already indicated. It was more of a jab at usage of lazy but not in critical way.

Don’t be so critical over a tongue in cheek comment and don’t be so defensive over your choice of inferior products.

Re: Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

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What point are you making here? That Apple should be able to leverage their market position to crush their competition for a particular device just because it doesn't affect you in particular? You don't care for smart watches so the smart watch market should be exempt from regulation?

Exactly. They're just toys. I also don't care that my Nintendo GameCube can't use an Xbox controller.

Third-party controllers have been widely available for every popular video game console including the GameCube. Nothing was stopping anyone - Microsoft included - from creating an Xbox controller which would also work on the GameCube. Nintendo certainly didn't stop anyone.

This example completely misrepresents the issue. Nobody is asking Apple to add support for Pebble watches to their devices. They're asking Apple to stop preventing Pebble (and other smart watch manufacturers) from being able to support Apple devices.

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I like the ecosystem. If you don’t, choose another ecosystem.

"Love it or leave it" - why not make it better?

It's constantly getting better. If it wasn't then competitors would surpass it, but they never have.

Re: Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

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it's pretty frustrating how "apple people" just don't care that it's apples fault. i routinely hear my wife mutter "i hate google so much!" when a google maps integration is being intentionally hobbled to keep her using apple maps. or when she has trouble managing rcs conversations because somebody in our social world has the gall to be on an android phone.

I don't like that iMessage = lock-in, but everyone else needs to make a better standard first. We got cross-platform encrypted covid chat before we got this. RCS has an FBI "do not use" warning on it because there's no E2EE. And the reason people don't want green bubbles is cause they always screw up the group chat.

The E2EE situation will hopefully change soon: https://www.theverge.com/news/629620/apple-iphone-e2ee-encry...

Re: Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

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Why would Apple be liable for these things? There are existing phones in every market that allow such things without any liability issues.

In which jurisdictions are there no court cases whatsoever regarding similar and related issues?

Can you point me to any court cases where an OS developer got sued because an idiot clicked through a security prompt and got pwned as a result?
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