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Commercial jet collides with Black Hawk helicopter near Reagan airport

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Re: Commercial jet collides with Black Hawk helicopter near Reagan airport

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I was a controller at DCA for 8 years and this is a normal operation with Helicopters using the Helicopter routes. The problem I see is the controller asked the Helicopter if they had the CRJ in sight, but he never said WHERE HE WAS OR WHAT HE WAS DOING! The controller should have told the Helicopter that the CRJ was circling to RWY 33. The helicopter said he had him in sight, but he really had the Jet in sight that…

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The American people are tired of cleaning up the messes the bureaucracy has made. They've broken the rules, and it is time for the mess to be cleaned up and ejected from their jobs. Many who have more HN-like peers and communities may not realize this is the opinion of the people, but the awakening is coming when the paychecks stop.

Funny, you could just replace “American” with “German” and the comment would still work, even like 90 years or so ago!

Yes differing opinion on bureaucracy means you are a Nazi! No matter what I'm looking for is closer to the size of US government pre WW1, not a massive army of servants literally gassing minorities.

Re: Commercial jet collides with Black Hawk helicopter near Reagan airport

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So, Hegseth indicated the Army helicopter was using night vision… would that be normal when flying in a dense urban airspace?

It'd be normal to have night vision to hand for either a training mission or for a secure VIP transport mission. It's unclear whether they were being used at the time of the crash, but it'd be part of training. The reporting to hand ATM makes statements such as: Earlier in the day, Mr. Hegseth said the crew had night vision goggles. However, it was unclear whether the crew was wearing the goggles at the time of the c…

Sure, but if they weren’t in use, why mention them?

And I wouldn’t expect them to be training in them in a busy commercial airspace. But that’s just what I’d expect - not based on anything else.

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Congressmen from areas that can serve DCA tend to pick DCA due to proximity/convenience. Noted elsewhere, it's a bit easier to navigate internally (smaller, newer terminal building vs IAD), though I don't know how much that impacts Congressmen - I'm guessing they at minimum are using first class/preferred facilities and not queuing up with us plebes for security. Periodically, Congress pushes to have DCA take more tr…

What is the rationale for the mile limit (other than protectionism for Dulles, which is what I suspect the answer is)? DCA’s short runways and tight space mean larger aircraft can’t use so that’s already a natural limiter. My bias is that I think Dulles needs to become a better airport rather than limiting competition with DCA.

The rule was put in place by Congress in 1966, when IAD opened. Notionally to manage congestion at DCA, but yes also to get residents to use IAD, which was intended to be DC’s major airport.

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The ATF was raiding for their purview, firearms/explosives. As for the fires, they happened after incendiary tear gas was deployed by the government. They also sent a tank like vehicle to destroy the building. That's not overruled by some sketchy milk carton audio of who knows who.

> The ATF was raiding for their purview, firearms/explosives. Well not really. That's what they had warrants for. Obviously they knew about and didn't like the whole child sex slavery thing. > As for the fires, they happened [six hours] after incendiary tear gas was deployed by the government... That's not overruled by some sketchy milk carton audio of [militant religious nutjobs inside the compound talking about spr…

Obviously the best way to save the children from Koresh is a siege, incendiary weapons, and a tank. Not taking him on his daily run, or first using the sheriff who had rapport with Koreash

Even if the ATF/FBI is 0% responsible for the fire they showed an exquisite ability to exacerbate the danger the kids were in. I'm sure it was a total coincidence the same sniper at Waco shot Vicki Weaver, an innocent women with a child in her arms.

Re: Commercial jet collides with Black Hawk helicopter near Reagan airport

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It'd be normal to have night vision to hand for either a training mission or for a secure VIP transport mission. It's unclear whether they were being used at the time of the crash, but it'd be part of training. The reporting to hand ATM makes statements such as: Earlier in the day, Mr. Hegseth said the crew had night vision goggles. However, it was unclear whether the crew was wearing the goggles at the time of the c…

Sure, but if they weren’t in use, why mention them? And I wouldn’t expect them to be training in them in a busy commercial airspace. But that’s just what I’d expect - not based on anything else.

> Sure, but if they weren’t in use, why mention them?

Errr, Hegseth is a functioning alcoholic recently parachuted into a job several orders of magnitude past anything in his prior experience.

He's likely to blurt out anything unredacted that he's heard in briefings without any due consideration of consequence.

That aside, these are training missions, they have night vision available, this would have been flagged as one of many possible influencing factors in the absence of a full accident investigation that crawls through everything.

It's unknown (to the public at least, and at this point no one who knows would or should say) whether they were in use for now.

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Marine radar is trivial compared to air-to-air radar. The Black Hawk, like most aircraft, does not have an air-to-air radar. IR cameras would be completely inappropriate for the situation but night vision goggles are a possibility I guess - though still have all the same drawbacks as using your eyes - you have to look in the right direction and recognise what that small dot is that you’re seeing.

>Marine radar is trivial compared to air-to-air radar. like in the case of a boat, the air-to-air radar is still peanuts compare to the cost of the plane/helicopter >The Black Hawk, like most aircraft, does not have an air-to-air radar. Pretty surprising for the military. You'd like to know when an enemy fighter or a missile coming for you. And military frequently operates in the territories without any ATC, so you'd…

>>The Black Hawk, like most aircraft, does not have an air-to-air radar.

>Pretty surprising for the military. You'd like to know when an enemy fighter or a missile coming for you.

I'd guess the answer to "when is an enemy missile heading towards me" would usually be "shortly after you turn on your radar transmitter and reveal your location"...

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> the airport is fairly easy to navigate once you're in. I see you skipped talking about how terrible it is navigating the road traffic to arrivals/departures

You mean if you’re driving? Sometimes there’s bad traffic around the ring and sometimes there’s not, a lot of airports are like that.

Specifically the terrible signage and navigation to the right dropoffs

Re: Commercial jet collides with Black Hawk helicopter near Reagan airport

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I'm sorry, doesn't matter who you support, but to blame DEI or former presidents for this is just shameful.

DEI is the new catch-all boogeyman.

My take is that the emperor has no clothes, and most people around him are simply too afraid to say anything. The rest have something to gain from his current anti-DEI fixation.

I fully expect Trump to blame every future scandal, accident, crisis, etc. on DEI.

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