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Post by changing1999 »

GrantS wrote: post #599
vunderba wrote: post #497

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One thing I've noticed with the set of music generation tools (eg Udio, Suno) is that there's a sort of profound attachment to songs that you create. With all due respect, how could there be when at the click of a button you can generate entire songs? You didn't come up with the chord progression, the structure, the melodic motifs, or the lyrics. My attachment to my works is directly proportional to the amount of eff…

You can absolutely specify your own lyrics and structure to Suno.

If by "structure" you mean "add a verse and a chorus" then sure. Music composition goes slightly beyond that.

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Post by dvngnt_ »

zoogeny wrote: post #314
turblety wrote: post #127

Why do these video generation ones never become usable to the public. Is it just they had to create millions of videos and cherry pick only a handful of decent generations? Or is it just so expensive there's no business model for it? My mind instantly assumes it a money thing and they're just wanting to charge millions for it, therefore out of reach for the general public. But then with Meta's whole stance on open ai…

There are a few available to the public. runway.ai and kling are a couple that I see heavily used on Twitter. I pay for runway right now for experiments and it works. The problem is that maybe 1 out of 10 prompts result in something useable. And when I say useable I have pretty low standards. Since the model pumps out 5 or 10 second clips you have to be pretty creative since the models still struggle with keeping any…

GTA IV Real Life - Runway Gen 3 AI shows the potential to turn low-fidelity source to something life-like https://youtu.be/FGBSzSO8k6A it would be really cool to this to work locally at playable rates

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Post by rolux »

sleepybrett wrote: post #527

It should be federal law that any video created with GenAI should be watermarked both stenographically and visually. (Same goes for images and audio.. not sure what can be done about ascii)

Stenography is writing in shorthand. What you mean is steganography.

You can also watermark plain text by generating "invisible" patterns.

Of course, in all these cases, the watermarks are trivial to remove: just re-encode the output with an open model. Which is why I hope there will be no federal law that tries to enforce something that is categorically unenforceable.

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Post by valval »

lopis wrote: post #52
TrackerFF wrote: post #6

All the vids have that instantly recognizable GenAI "sheen", for the lack of a better word. Also, I think the most obvious giveaway are all the micro-variations that happen along the edges, which give a fuzzy artifact.

I assure you that's not enough. These are high quality videos. Once they get uploaded to social media, compression mostly makes imperfections go away. And it's been shown that when people are not expecting AI content, they are much less likely to realize they are looking at AI. I would 100% believe most of these videos were real if caught off guard.

The way I see it, it won’t take long before human eyes won’t be able to distinguish AI generated content from original.

The only regret I have about that is losing video as a form of evidence. CCTV footage and the like are a valuable tool for solving crimes. That’s going to be out the window soon.

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Post by skywhopper »

complianceowl wrote: post #596
throw310822 wrote: post #564

The porntential is immense. Seriously though. This is the company that is betting hard on VR goggles. And these are engines that can produce real time dreams, 3d, photographic quality, obedient to our commands. No 3d models needed, no physics simulations, no ray tracing, no prebuilt environments and avatars. All simply dreamed up in real time, as requested by the user in natural language. It might be one of the most…

Hahahaha. I think Websters Dictionary may be interested in hiring you.

That’s not how dictionaries work.

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Post by skywhopper »

heurist wrote: post #273

I've been saying for years that generated content is an impending tsunami that's going to drown out all real human voices online. The internet may become effectively unusable as a result for anything other than entertainment.

The only problem is that all the AI slop is not actually entertaining either.

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Post by rolux »

mike_hearn wrote: post #275

The paper that comes with this is nearly as crazy as the videos themselves. At a cool 92 pages it's closer to a small book than a normal scientific publication. There's nearly 10 pages of citations alone. I'll have to work through this in the coming days, but here's a few interesting points from the first few sections. For a long time people have speculated about The Singularity. What happens when AI is used to impro…

Having read the paper, I agree that this is an enormous effort, but I didn't see anything that was particularly surprising from a technical point of view - and nothing of Singularity-level significance. The use of AI to train AI - as a source of synthetic data, or as an evaluation tool - is absolutely widespread. You will find similar examples in almost any AI paper dealing with a system of comparable scale.

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Post by valval »

atomic128 wrote: post #567
bee_rider wrote: post #538

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I wonder if they are making bank. Seems like a race to the bottom, there’s no barrier to entry, right?

Right, content creators are in a race to the bottom. But the people who position themselves to profit from the energy consumption of the hardware will profit from all of it: the LLMs, the image generators, the video generators, etc. See discussion yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41733311 Imagine the number of worthless images being generated as people try to find one they like. Slop content creators i…

You spent a lot of words to conclude that energy is the difference maker between modern western standards of living and whatever else there is and has been.

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Post by osmsucks »

kredd wrote: post #441
gcr wrote: post #281

> Upload an image of yourself and transform it > into a personalized video. Movie Gen’s > cutting-edge model lets you create personalized > videos that preserve human identity and motion. A stalker’s dream! I’m sure my ex is going to love all the videos I’m going to make of her! Jokes aside, it’s a little bizarre to me that they treat identity preservation as a feature while competitors treat that as a bug, explicitl…

Pretty much anyone that I’ve talked to that somewhat works in AI industry, the attitude is “let it rip right now, and deal with the consequences as it’s going to happen one way or another”. I’m not sure where I stand on this issue, but the reality is, it’s inevitable whether we want it or not.

Ah, the usual "if we don't do it, someone else will".

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Post by hackable_sand »

allturtles wrote: post #566
garrettgarcia wrote: post #551

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The fact that your first thought was how you could use this amazing tech to remember a lost family member who you love, and OP's first thought was that it could be used for evil so it shouldn't exist says a ton about each of you.

Well I think the second use sounds creepy, too. I'm sure that says a ton about me.

Nah u not wrong

Both unhealthy

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