Nice to see OpenAI adopting useful Claude features
Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
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Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
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So the choices are 100% or 0%?
That’s my point – they are not. Your previous comment implied to me a belief that any attempt to draw inference from past events was doomed to failure! Each circumstance is different. Sometimes the past is a good guide to the future – even for the notoriously unpredictable British weather apparently you can get a seventy percent success rate (by some measure) by predicting that tomorrows weather will be the same as t…
I did not speak with certainty. Everything I said is guess and opinion.
Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
#653This is cool, but I wish it were integrated into tools already used for coding and writing rather than having it be a separate app. This also demonstrates the type of things Google could do with Gemini integrated into Google Docs if they step up their game a bit. Honestly I’m scratching my head on OpenAI’s desire to double down on building out their consumer B2C use cases rather than truly focussing on being the infr…
I think this is already built into Microsoft's Office365 "CoPilot" (which I assume is a ChatGPT frontend. You can ask the AI to make changes to your Office documents.
Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
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That’s a great demo of Canvas. Slightly OT, but one thing I noticed further into the demo is how you were prompting. Rather than saying “embed my projects in my portfolio site” you told it to “add an iframe with the src being the project url next to each project”. Similarly, instead of “make the projects look nice”, you told it to “use css transforms to …” If I were a new developer starting today, it feels like I wou…
> Basically it looks like a tool that can code for you if you are capable of writing the code yourself (given enough time). Yes, exactly. I use it the way I used to outsource tasks to junior developers. I describe what I need done and then I do code review. I know roughly where I want to go and how to get there, like having a sink full of dirty dishes and visualizing an empty sink with all the dishes cleaned and put…
This just raised a big red flag for me:
> I use it the way I used to outsource tasks to junior developers.
Is this not concerning to you, in a broader sense? These interactions were incredibly formative for junior devs (they were for me years ago) - its how to grew new senior devs. If we automate away the opportunity to train new senior devs, what happens to the future?
Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
#655This is cool, but I wish it were integrated into tools already used for coding and writing rather than having it be a separate app. This also demonstrates the type of things Google could do with Gemini integrated into Google Docs if they step up their game a bit. Honestly I’m scratching my head on OpenAI’s desire to double down on building out their consumer B2C use cases rather than truly focussing on being the infr…
If I'm reading this right; it's been in VSCode as Copilot Chat for a fair bit now. I use it often, when they added context (provide extra files to reference or even the entire @workspace if it's small enough), absolute gamechanger.
Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
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It is quite similar but I found aider a bit clunky to use in that it creates a new commit with a huge message being the whole conversation and context. Which can be a good thing of course, but for most things I'd rather accumulate changes until a feature is finished, then I commit.
I use aider with the --no-auto-commits flag. Then review code and do manual edits in VSCode, as well as manual git process. It achieves exactly what you're saying. aider --sonnet --no-auto-commits --cache-prompts --no-stream --cache-keepalive-pings 5 --no-suggest-shell-commands`
This is a great tip, appreciate it
Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
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I wouldn't be surprised to see Apple add something like this to Pages and some of their other apps. Their approach to AI, from what we've seen so far, has been about integrating it into existing apps and experiences, rather than making a separate AI app. I have to imagine this is the way forward, and these stand alone apps are basically tech demos for what is possible, rather than end-state for how it should be consu…
How many people use Pages these days? I don't think Apple even mentions the product in their WWDC these days. My guess is that most people either use Microsoft suite as required by their employer or use cloud based knowledge base/notes tools like Notion/Quip/Obsidian/Confluence etc. I doubt Apple thinks it worthwhile to invest in these products.
People who need to make the occasional document outside of work, who don’t need to invest in paying for Office, use iWork. I count myself in that list. I use Office at work (99% of that usage is Excel), but at home I use the iWork apps. Mostly Numbers, but Pages as well. I hear many of my friends and family doing the same, because it’s what they have, it’s good enough, and it’s free.
Few people outside of tech circles know what those other apps you mentioned are. I use Confluence at work, because it’s what my company uses. I also tried using it at home, but not for the same stuff I’d use Pages for. I use Obsidian at work to stay organized, but again, it doesn’t replace what I’d use Pages for, it’s more of a Notes competitor in my book. A lot of people don’t want their documents locked away in a Notion DB, and it’s not something I’d think to use if I’m looking to print something.
I went back and looked at the last WWDC video. Apple did mention the apps briefly, to say they have integrated Image Playgrounds, their AI image generation, into Pages, Keynote, and Numbers. With each major upgrade, the iWork apps usually get something. Office productivity isn’t exactly the center of innovation these days. The apps already do the things that 80% of users need.
Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
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> Basically it looks like a tool that can code for you if you are capable of writing the code yourself (given enough time). Yes, exactly. I use it the way I used to outsource tasks to junior developers. I describe what I need done and then I do code review. I know roughly where I want to go and how to get there, like having a sink full of dirty dishes and visualizing an empty sink with all the dishes cleaned and put…
This just raised a big red flag for me: > I use it the way I used to outsource tasks to junior developers. Is this not concerning to you, in a broader sense? These interactions were incredibly formative for junior devs (they were for me years ago) - its how to grew new senior devs. If we automate away the opportunity to train new senior devs, what happens to the future?
For junior devs, I now can outsource higher level things to be accomplished: I.e. https://github.com/breck7/wws/issues
Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
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He meant singing dog, likely conflated due to his linguistic interest. "Juggling dog" has only been expressed a single time previously in our corpus of humanity: During the Middle Ages, however, church and state sometimes frowned more sternly on the juggler. "The duties of the king," said the edicts of the Sixth Council of Paris during the Middle Ages, "are to prevent theft, to punish adultery, and to refuse to maint…
It’s a great phrase all that aside. I’m adopting it.
"Dogs were not aware of their shared interest in juggling until the invention of the internet, where like-minded canines would eventually congregate unto enclaves of specialty."
Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
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Would love a more specific example of this. How to use this architect mode. BTW surprised that tarballs work - aren’t these compressed?
Just incant tar cvf and leave off the z or j: there’s a tiny binary header but Claude won’t mind. Check out the aider GitHub repository for details but 4o is responsive to text requests too.
ya for extra clarification - a tarball or .tar file is an uncompressed container for files. It can also be compressed (.tar.gz, .tar.bz2, etc)
ultimately though the end user is not really concerned with this. the tarball needs to be un-tar'd regardless of whether it is compressed. (some nuance here as certain compression formats might not be supported by the host... but gzip and bzip2 are common)
I haven't tested a compressed tarball yet but I would imagine chatgpt won't have issues with that.