My god. I really didn‘t think he would actually do it.
I don't think he did. The timing is too convenient after two weeks of him reassuring people he would win over and over.
One way to destroy the trump shooter stories too.
Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate
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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate
#652One of the most effective presidents since Johnson or Truman. But he did campaign on a single term. Let’s hope the Dem’s circular firing squad puts down its guns so they can quickly concentrate on winning the election with someone … probably Harris is the simplest answer.
What did Biden do to make America or the life of Americans better (or possibly worse for some)?
Seems like America has been going backwards for a long time.
Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate
#653Earlier quoted context omitted.
The constitution has a lower limit on the age of the president, why not an upper limit?
It was written during a time when the average life expectancy of men was around 40.
Thomas Jefferson lived to 83. John Adams 90. Benjamin Franklin 84. James Madison 85.
Plenty of people lived long lives back then.
Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate
#654Earlier quoted context omitted.
Airline pilots have a legally mandated retirement age of 65. Running the country seems like it's at least as mission-critical as flying a plane.
The president has a large support staff to keep the lights on most of the time. Unless the nation is physically under attack, the president's day-to-day job is probably physically less demanding than that of pilots. They have plenty of time for golf.
None of that support staff is constitutionally allowed to make the call to respond to an imminent or ongoing attack. We need a commander in chief and we need to know who that person is -- which was the whole point of the Presidential Succession Act and the 25th amendment. This isn't even a Biden thing -- we had similar issues with Wilson, FDR, Kennedy and Reagan, and I'm sure that some administrations had similar issues that were never reported or written about afterwards.
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#655Earlier quoted context omitted.
> you must be younger than > the average life expectancy > (currently 73yo) - while in > office. As an aside, it's a common error to think that overall life expectancy is relevant to this sort of thing, it's not. That number includes those who die in infancy, etc. If you wanted to limit it by "life expectancy" you'd want to limit it by the statistical expected remaining years of life at the candidate's current age .…
> it's a common error to think that overall life expectancy is relevant to this sort of thing, it's not. That’s why I purposely linked to the official US government Actuarial Table. Biden is 81. The statistics state that an 81yo will only live 7-more-years. When a presidential term (4-years) is more than half of your remaining life, the margin of error to die while in office is extreme high. —- Another way to look at…
from my perspective, the reason to consider age limits for politicians, while using Biden as an example, is not the chance that he will die in office; it's rather the chance that he won't die in office.
he's showing signs of having trouble doing a good job
Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate
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I think it's pretty obvious that the assassination attempt will not generate good discussion. Most online platforms are just a collection of spicy take memes about the event. In case of Biden stepping down, there's a lot more to discuss, ranging from his legacy as a statesman to the future of the election.
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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate
#657Putting politics aside … Why don’t they have an age limit on the president (or any elected office)? E.g., you must be younger than the average life expectancy (currently men: 73yo / female: 79) - while in office. https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html
Airline pilots have a legally mandated retirement age of 65. Running the country seems like it's at least as mission-critical as flying a plane.
airline pilots physically control the plane on a minute to minute basis. they need to be alert, have good eyes and ears, etc.
the president has entire staffs, including highly qualified generals, bureaucrats, line workers, etc. to drive the ship.
Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate
#658My god. I really didn‘t think he would actually do it.
There was never any risk of me voting for Trump, but when I watched the debate it became abundantly clear that Biden could not win an election. He came off as an extremely frail old man and I had my doubts that he would survive the entire debate , let alone another four years in office. I'm a pretty left-leaning person and I find Trump to be an overwhelmingly unappealing idiot in general, but even I had to admit that…
>He was still the moronic walking Markov Chain that he always is, but he at least looked alive.
Off topic but I find this insult(?) a bit funny. Is it supposed to be an insult as in his action / speech are as predictable/determined by current state only, as is Markov chain?
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> One of the most effective presidents since Johnson or Truman. In what way? I don't live in the US, so what did I miss? I don't remember Biden doing anything of note (good or bad). > But he did campaign on a single term. Biden said that he was running for only a single term, and during this entire second election campaign nobody called him out on that, not even outspoken Trump?
https://www.npr.org/2023/01/01/1143149435/despite-infighting... There's more; that's just the first two years.
Looks like he just signed a bunch of money to people, then said he fought inflation which was both directly and indirectly caused by him signing over money... Can't see anything tangible there that forcibly improved the lives of Americans.
Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate
#660Earlier quoted context omitted.
> you must be younger than > the average life expectancy > (currently 73yo) - while in > office. As an aside, it's a common error to think that overall life expectancy is relevant to this sort of thing, it's not. That number includes those who die in infancy, etc. If you wanted to limit it by "life expectancy" you'd want to limit it by the statistical expected remaining years of life at the candidate's current age .…
Joe Biden is older than 80 lol I would want to limit it by social security retirement age. I don’t really know any 70 year olds who are “all there.”
Oddly (or not it'd definitely selection bias/survivorship) there's 4 people over 70 on my ski patrol, all of them re-certified on the toboggan this year, 3 of the 4 on black diamond. They're some of the best skiiers I've seen and their bedside manner and health skills were amazing. The main issue for most of them is just hearing which makes them seem more off than they are. All of them had transitioned to management / dispatch and back to patroller they've been doing it so long. One literally wrote the book.