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Julian Assange has reached a plea deal with the U.S., allowing him to go free

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Re: Julian Assange has reached a plea deal with the U.S., allowing him to go free

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Post by qzx_pierri »

jml78 wrote: post #601

My issue is that he was influenced by Russia. Aka they threatened his life and he then proceeded to leak information about the US but keep Russian secrets. I mean I don’t blame him for not wanting to be murdered by Russia but he isn’t a freedom fighter when he only leaks things for countries that don’t directly threaten his life.

The relentless "Russia bad!" parroting is very exhausting. Not saying it couldn't be true, but it just seems like such a low effort copout for anything that seems to be rooted in malevolence in 2024. Every single topic seems to be aimed at Russia on reddit and HN.

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Post by whamlastxmas »

bandrami wrote: post #386
webninja wrote: post #381

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, and politics is not about supporting only one side either. If transparency makes for more informed decisions, who’s to judge the better outcome? Meritocracies die in darkness and evidence of corruption scares lots of voters away. Especially the unaffiliated/independent ones that decide elections.

Weird that he had the hacked emails of two political parties in the US and only released one of them, then

A shame there aren’t any other journalists that could have leaked the other party’s emails, clearly Assanges fault

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Post by pipes »

varjag wrote: post #545
mandmandam wrote: post #520

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering what America did to Iraq, I think that's an understandable viewpoint. However, Assange has always displayed a great respect for human life, and so, this doesn't sound like him at all. I can't find any clip of this, nor anyone discussing this, and have never heard of it before your claim. Care to bring receipts? Edit: Looking more into it, I found the source - people said that Declan Walsh said that he hea…

What makes you think he values human life? He sent his buddy with the cables to my home country to share with KGB prior to the public release. I hope the rest of his life is equally miserable now that he is a free person.

KGB? Please can you expand on this, I'm genuinely interested (see my comment above).

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Post by pipes »

mandmandam wrote: post #520
pipes wrote: post #482

My view of him changed when I saw a recording of him in a documentary saying that murdered Iraqi translators who worked with the US military got what they deserved for working with the enemy.

Considering what America did to Iraq, I think that's an understandable viewpoint. However, Assange has always displayed a great respect for human life, and so, this doesn't sound like him at all. I can't find any clip of this, nor anyone discussing this, and have never heard of it before your claim. Care to bring receipts? Edit: Looking more into it, I found the source - people said that Declan Walsh said that he hea…

Looks like someone did my homework for me, see the comments above.

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Post by whamlastxmas »

trogdor wrote: post #644
skilled wrote: post #638

If you care about this news and you are able to do this financially, consider supporting Julian's fee for having have had to take a private plane for this entire process: > Julian Assange has embarked on flight VJ199 to Saipan. If all goes well it will bring him to freedom in Australia. But his travel to freedom comes at a massive cost: he will owe USD 520,000 which he is obligated to pay back to the Australian gover…

>He was not permitted to fly commercial airlines or routes to Saipan and onward to Australia. Not permitted by who, and on what basis?

Presumably either the US or UK as part of his plea deal or bail conditions. Maybe some form of house arrest where he’s not to be in public.

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Post by m0llusk »

damsalor wrote: post #365
dav43 wrote: post #359

The lack of support and lack of agitation by the Australian Government on both sides of parliament is a testament to how bad Australian politics is. He was an Australia citizen left out to dry. Disgraceful.

Aus can hardly antagonize us/uk

Australia is a long time critical ally of the US that has accumulated significant political and social capital and can expect any requests to be considered seriously.

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Post by cies »

throwawayffffas wrote: post #557
cies wrote: post #481

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The first link is Hillary denying it and the second is a screenshot of a wall of text from thepundit.com, that claims sources said that she blurted out "Can't we just drone this guy." and everyone in the room laughed. Not exactly damning evidence.

The list for the Clinton's is about as long as the list ascribed to Putin.

Only for the Clinton's there's a book:

https://www.amazon.com/New-Clinton-Body-Count-Suspicious/dp/...

And for Putin there's a Wikipedia page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_to_Vladimir_Putin_i...

(look for the "†" marks and read to see if you think it was natural causes or accidents)

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Post by Aerbil313 »

joenot443 wrote: post #605
moffkalast wrote: post #542

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Yeah, 5 years in a 2x3m cell with total social isolation? People almost went mad locking down 2 months during covid an they had internet. I doubt he'll ever be the same, or even a functioning person again.

John McCain spent a little over 5 years being tortured in solitary confinement in a Vietnamese POW camp and later became Arizona senator. Exceptional people are capable of a lot, I'm sure Assange hasn't lost his spirit yet.

Doesn't change the fact solitary confinement is torture and he underwent it.
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