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Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by matt-attack »

triyambakam wrote: post #565
markus_zhang wrote: post #549

TBH, I think the IT industry is too concentrated at eating itself. We are happily automating our jobs away and such while the other industries basically just sleep through. I don't want generative AI in my phone. I want someone, or something to book a meeting with my family doctor, the head of my son's future primary school, etc. I don't need AI to do that. I need the other industries (medical/government/education) t…

> AI is supposed to get rid of the chores, now it leaves us with the chores and take the creative part away. I don't need such AI. You know I hadn't considered that and I think that's very insightful. Thank you

This quote has been circulating recently:

> I want AI to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for AI to do my art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by mholm »

wwalexander wrote: post #597
tonyabracadabra wrote: post #538

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The image generation is dalle 2.5 level and feels really greasy to me, beyond that I think the overall launch is pretty good! I also congratulate rabbit r1 for their timely release months before WWDC https://heymusic.ai/music/apple-intel-fEoSb

Yeah, the image generation felt really…cheap?…tasteless? but everything else was really impressive.

Personalization really feels like the missing link here. The images it creates are highly contextual, which increases their value dramatically. Nobody on Reddit wants to see the AI generated T. rex with a tutu on a surfboard, but in a group chat where your dancer buddy Rex is learning to surf, it’s a killer. The image AI can even use photos to learn who a person is. That opens up a ton of cool ways to communicate with friends

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by Aerbil313 »

About time. I was saying that Apple is cooking these features, especially intelligent Siri, for the past 1.5 years. It was obvious really.

You can clearly see only people objecting to this new technological integration are the people who don't have a use case for it yet. I am a college student and I can immediately see how me and my friends will be using these features. All of us have ChatGPT installed and subscribed already. We need to write professionally to our professors in e-mail. A big task is to locate a document sent over various communication channels.

Now is the time you'll see people speaking to their devices on street. As an early adopter using the dumb Siri and ChatGPT voice chat far more than average person, it has always been weird to speak to your phone in public. Surely the normalization will follow the general availability soon after.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by xethos »

ManuelKiessling wrote: post #550
ethbr1 wrote: post #334

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> I always saw this level of personal intelligence to come about at some point, but I didn’t expect Apple to hit it out of the park so strongly. Benefit of drawing people into their ecosystem. It's the benefit of how Apple does product ownership. In contrast to Google and Microsoft. I hadn't considered it, but AI convergence is going to lay bare organizational deficiencies in a way previous revolutions didn't. Nobody…

It’s ironic how the one company that is WAY over the top wrt secrecy — not only to the public, but also and especially internally (they’ve even walled the hardware team from the software team while developing the iPhone!) — is at the same time the one company that really nails integration.

People will scoff and say "Yeah, but all kinds of companies have internal firewalls, big deal". But no, these were literal walls that would appear over a weekend and suddenly part of the campus was off-limits to those not on the iPhone project.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by Nition »

Aside from the search and Siri improvements, I'm really not sure about the usefulness of all the generative stuff Apple is suggesting we might use here.

If you spend an hour drawing a picture for someone for their birthday and send it to them, a great deal of the value to them is not in the quality of the picture but in the fact that you went to the effort, and that it's something unique only you could produce for them by giving your time. The work is more satisfying to the creator as well - if you've ever used something you built yourself that you're proud of vs. something you bought you must have felt this. The AI image that Tania generated in a few seconds might be fun the first time, but quickly becomes just spam filling most of a page of conversation, adding nothing.

If you make up a bedtime story for your child, starring them, with the things they're interested in, a great deal of the value to them is not in the quality of the story but... same thing as above. I don't think Apple's idea of reading an AI story off your phone instead is going to have the same impact.

In a world where you can have anything the value of everything is nothing.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by mensetmanusman »

“With onscreen awareness, Siri will be able to understand and take action with users’ content in more apps over time. For example, if a friend texts a user their new address in Messages, the receiver can say, “Add this address to his contact card.””

Little annoyances like this being fixed would be great. “Open the address on this page in google maps” better work :)

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by kolinko »

markus_zhang wrote: post #549

TBH, I think the IT industry is too concentrated at eating itself. We are happily automating our jobs away and such while the other industries basically just sleep through. I don't want generative AI in my phone. I want someone, or something to book a meeting with my family doctor, the head of my son's future primary school, etc. I don't need AI to do that. I need the other industries (medical/government/education) t…

As for government - depends on a country. In Poland we have an mCitizen (mObywatel) mobile app that allows to handle more things tear by year, and we have internet sites with unified citizen login for most of the other government interactions.

The last time our IRS wanted sth from me, they just e-mailed me, I replied and the issue was solved in 5 minutes.

Oh, and you don’t need any paper ids within the country - driver license, car registration and official citizen id are apps on your phone, and if you don’t have your phone when say police catches you, you give them your data and they check it with their database and with your photo to confirm.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by mensetmanusman »

matt-attack wrote: post #651
triyambakam wrote: post #565

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> AI is supposed to get rid of the chores, now it leaves us with the chores and take the creative part away. I don't need such AI. You know I hadn't considered that and I think that's very insightful. Thank you

This quote has been circulating recently: > I want AI to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for AI to do my art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes

That’s not possible yet, moving atoms is much more difficult than moving bits.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by chipotle_coyote »

iLoveOncall wrote: post #563
theshrike79 wrote: post #539

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The difference is that this is on-device and private. Gmail just feeds your emails to Google's servers and they do the crunching. And in the meanwhile train their systems to be better using your content.

It changes nothing about the impressiveness (or lack thereof) of the feature. Detecting an appointment from an email doesn't even require AI. You're also over-indexing on the fact that some processing will be done on device. The rest will go to Apple's servers just the same as Google. And you will never know how much goes or doesn't.

Apple Mail has been able to detect appointments and reservations from email for years, just like Gmail -- and at least in my experience, Apple Mail pulls more useful information out of the mail when it creates the calendar entry. What they showed today is, in theory, something different. (I presume the difference is integrating it into the Siri assistant, not the mail application.)
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