Hoy is a device that cost 229.95$ + 10$ month sub for kids?
The parents would be paying?
Google releases smart watch for kids
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#653Hoy is a device that cost 229.95$ + 10$ month sub for kids?
Think about it from the parent’s perspective: the safety of your toddler while you’re at a crowded amusement park is of high value.
Losing a young child must be terrifying, even if they’re found shortly after. I think the value proposition justifies the price, at least for a reasonable amount of parents.
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Why do you feel like you “need” this, though? I think that’s exactly what GP is saying – not disagreeing that it might have utility, but that there is a cost associated as well. The world is just statistically not that scary, and it’s good to let our kids make mistakes and get lost and find their way and face adversity and survive. Me and my wife differ in our perspectives on this. She is more of a “safety at any cos…
Did we turn out great or did you turn out great? There are many cases where unsupervised use of the internet or getting lost did not turn out well at all. Why view someone opting into this (my entire family has "find my" enabled on our phones.) Where is the negative? Kids can still be free range while allowing for the parent to know where they are.
I mean, when people bring up unsupervised use of internet, I always remember that my first exposure to porn in the 90s was a site called animal sex farm (there was a list with leaked credentials for porn site that I stumbled into and that was the first site on the list). I was rather shocked by what I saw and let's say it's not something I'd want my son to be exposed to at 12 years old.
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I was about 3 years ahead of my peers in spatial reasoning and behind them socially. When I was a kid leaving me alone meant I was likely to wander long distances end up in a pool and drown. If anything I see this as enabling parents to keep their kids on a longer leash so to speak.
So... how is a GPS-tracker watch going to save you from drowning? It's not like your parents are going to be able to cover that distance quickly enough to save you.
Finding me faster
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Aren't phone numbers longer than they used to be?
Yes, in 1920 they were shorter.
We didn't need an area code for much of the time I was growing up in the 90s in the Atlanta area. It was a huge media thing when we got a new code and finally had to start thinking about it. We had an area code (404) but nobody used it until that pesky 770 (1995) complicated life for some, and 678 (1998) later messed it up for everyone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Georgia_area_codes
Of course, they're increasingly meaningless now that everyone has cell phones and gets to pick an area code.
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I can only guess you (and most of the other naysayers in this thread) don't have young children. My wife and I have been looking for something exactly like this for our 6yo. I lost him on a ski slope once over a year ago and I think he's still traumatized. He recently was afraid of going on a class trip because he was afraid of getting lost. This isn't for teenagers. It's for kids that are still attached to mama/papa…
>I can only guess you (and most of the other naysayers in this thread) don't have young children. or they don't hail from a culture where helicopter parenting has become the norm. Here in Germany tracking your kids like this would be widely seen as completely bizarre. There's a great Japanese TV show, called Old Enough , (that has been running for 30 years, long before smartphones existed), where kids as young as 2 a…
A few things to note on Japan and kids walking around. Usually you don't see children that are less than 5-6 years old walking around doing daily errands. When it's children that are younger it's usually with the parent walking a few meters behind to monitor what the child is doing.
And, Japan had special usage phones for children that would track their location even back in 2004. I lived there back then and I know a few parents who used that for their young children. So, yes children are allowed to freely roam around at an early age which is great but Japanese parents are not adverse to tracking.
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Jonathan Haidt explains it best: https://youtu.be/hVEhtix7yWU
Pop psychology has not exactly had a great track record, and I don't see why we should give credence to Haidt just because his "research" aligns with our priors...
A few things:
He's a psychologist proper at NYU, not some random journalist.
Psychology as a whole has suffered a reputational crisis.
You should listen to his claims and evaluate them independently, since they directly address your request for evidence.
Finally, the knocking of "pop science" books really grinds my gears. They are not inherently bad just because they are geared for a mass market. Technical subjects have layers of depth, and there is value in a high-level overview of some field.
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#659Ugh, I threw up a little in my mouth just from the headline. This constant tracking of kids is unnecessary and dangerous. Generations of kids survived without their parents needing to know their location at all times. And yes, I totally admit, some kids (very few actually depending on the locale) didn't survive. But we've traded this false sense of "safety" for kids that are so risk averse it is seriously negatively…
> Generations of kids survived without their parents needing to know their location at all times.
They did. Generations also survived without a polio vaccine. This isn't an argument.
> But we've traded this false sense of "safety" for kids that are so risk averse it is seriously negatively affecting their development
I see it the other way round. My kid's a bit too young to go off on his own or with friends, but it's not far off. If anything I'd say a watch like this makes me think he can go off younger than without it. The main problem is it's a Google watch, so I don't know how long it'll work for. And I don't care about games or payments; just a simple phone call/SMS service (locked down to certain contacts) with GPS pings I can see on my phone. And push to talk with friends would be cool, and probably send it viral.
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Boy scouts can afford to lose kids because there is a group of people who know the place very well and are trained to deal with such a situation. Which is I think not only common but expected. A tracker can reproduce this experience without the help of an boy scout camp. It is just about how the tracker is used. It can be used for constant, intrusive monitoring, or it can be used for emergencies only. It is just a to…
> who know the place very well and are trained to deal with such a situation This comment surprises me and I suggests to me that you were not in Boy Scouts (I even worked at a camp for several summers when I was 18/19). Tbh, most of the people in charge of groups are just figuring it out themselves (camps/OOTA/Varsity tend to be a bit better, but I mean camps are run by teenagers and people in their early 20's). The…
I'm curious why not pointing the weapon at the ground? (I've never been to a firing range so this might be a stupid question)