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Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet
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Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet
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It's about 3x. At 19-20s time goes from 5:44 to 5:45, at 40s it goes from 5:45 to 5:46.
That's pretty misleading and borderline deceptive. They should release a real-time video.
There are other videos here: https://daylightco.gorgias.help/en-US#article-493382 . That one video appears to have been sped up, my guess is to try to show a "summary" of functionality. I tried a few of the other videos and they don't appear to be sped up.
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#653Earlier quoted context omitted.
It looks like the speed of the video is at 1.25 or something like that. The hand/finger moves kinda un-naturally. Is it just me? Either way, it looks great. I do watch some YT vids, but I focus on the audio (i.e. watching some urgent news on Sky News (live) - video detail is not as important when something very bad has happened).
Yeah, for something where the performance is actually a selling point, you should probably feel obliged to include a clock or some other reference in the image. (I'm not claiming anything about this particular video - just that you really want to eliminate the perception of impropriety here.) This was a big problem in robotics for years - it eventually became standard to still do sped up videos but be disciplined abo…
I think context matters; that specific video is meant to show a summary of the functionality; it's in a section called "ereader on steroids" and it doesn't say anything about speed. And there are a lot of other videos on the same page which are not sped up. https://daylightco.gorgias.help/en-US#article-493382
Labelling the speed would be nice, but I don't detect any bad intentions here.
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#654$729, lol. Inkplate 10 is still on my want list. A 14 inch version at $729 would be of more interest than a 10 inch version which is too small to read full page PDFs. 60 hz update for e-paper is nice but imho not that valuable. I see it as a reading device not video.
Yeah - I’m old now. I need 13” and I really don’t wanna blow $2500 on a 13” iPad Pro.
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#655Earlier quoted context omitted.
> We developed our own custom epaper display tech we call LivePaper. We focused on solving the tradeoffs RLCDs traditionally have - around reflectance %, metallic-look / not Paperlike enough, viewing angle, white state, rainbow mura, parallax, resolution, size, lack of quality backlight, etc. Would you license this to others at a more affordable rate than e-ink? Lenovo has some e-ink 2-in-1 "thinkbook" laptops and mi…
They are just using displays made by eInk. Technically, Linfiny Japan Inc., which is a subsidiary that does B2B stuff like large displays. Several companies are offering similar fast refresh tech. It's no longer anything super special.
"We developed our own custom epaper display tech we call LivePaper. ... Note: it’s 60fps epaper, not off the shelf Eink"
Why do you claim it's off the shelf eInk when they explicitly say it isn't?
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#656Earlier quoted context omitted.
they're coming!! but i appreciate your skepticism until there's more video proof, i am the same too many broken promises by other tech cos, i understand we have to earn your trust there should be more video reviews coming out on twitter though from early customers / testers .. if i wasnt drowning in launch, id try to find you a link, if anyone else could help !
Publishing a sped-up video without telling us that it's sped up really killed all my trust I had in you guys. Seriously, what were you thinking? Your main and only selling point is the speed. So much so that that needs to compensate for lack of other features like resolution and color. And then you open the door to cheating accusations? You can now 100x say that it's really fast and no ghosting and all that, but your…
For future reference, if you're going to make a claim like this, seriously include a link. It's unclear what video you're talking about.
Assuming you're talking about the link to a video posted by another commenter further down ( https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=mikhailt ), that video was posted out of context. There are a lot of other videos on that documentation page which are not sped up. See here: https://daylightco.gorgias.help/en-US#article-493382
The video in question, the video under "ereader on steroids", appears to be sped up, my guess is because the purpose of the video is to summarize the functionality. A "3x" label would be nice, but let's not jump to accusations! That video isn't at all in a context where it seems likely meant to mislead. You can view other videos on that page that are in 1x.
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#657Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thanks for the head's up. I don't agree.
Some links: https://www.reddit.com/r/ereader/s/ZpVE0dTM98 https://www.reddit.com/r/eink/s/LonNpgGAIF https://www.reddit.com/r/eink/s/YqUXfrZhnm https://www.reddit.com/r/eink/s/xmurkiHGam
Alright.
You are putting together a compelling argument for both skepticism and caution before placing an order for merchandise from the goodereader store. (not something I planned to do)
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How do you feel about their youtube channel where they review all the various devices in this market segment?
Specifically, have you ever found their reviews to be inaccurate?
Do you know of any alternative source of reviews in this market segment that is as comprehensive or experienced?
One thing I'll say in favor is that they do send their writing staff to the various trade shows.
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#658Earlier quoted context omitted.
I second this. I really enjoy reading and writing on an Onyx e-ink tab, and I like the full Android functionality, but I can never use it for work or even for personal email logins, because I don't trust their custom Android build. I would be somewhat more inclined to trust Daylight than Onyx, but any custom OS is too potentially vulnerable to backdoors for my use cases. Something like this that you could load your o…
As long as the bootloader isn't locked, porting mainline Linux shouldn't be as bad as with E-ink devices. Here's a Ubuntu Touch port to another Helios G99 device [1]; I really hope the RLCD doesn't require host driver support. [1]: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/vidofnir/
You need USB-C DisplayPort (DP Alt Mode). Unfortunately it's not a software limitation oftentimes, most of the times it's a hardware design limitation. I guess Onyx figured that they can have two different product lines and milk both, as opposed to what they used to have, which was an HDMI port on the higher end models.
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#659I was really excited for this - I’ve been saying to all my friends that I wish I could use my kindle for more. Obviously the kindle is quite slow so it’s not a good fit for reading on the web (I use Instapaper a lot and wish I could have that experience in eInk). I also read scientific papers and those often have figures that are very hard to read on a small black and white display, and I tend to scribble in the margins when I referee for conferences.
For these tasks I use my iPad Air, but the eye strain problem is real if you’re reading for hours at a time. Since I bought a small laptop, I exclusively use my iPad for reading and writing. The writing experience could be better, with the surface feeling a little too glassy.
My big worries are the app support. I use notability to write notes, which has OCR and allows syncing to my laptop and phone. My bookmarks sync across browsers. My reading list syncs with Instapaper and my citations with Zotero. Can I get a similar syncing system?
Another perennial problem with such devices is the stylus. I’ve lost 2 apple pencils at conferences. It’s horrible - you now can’t write anything until you get a replacement. At least with an Apple Pencil you can walk into any store and pay the exorbitant $120 to buy a new one (imagine if you could never borrow a pen from anyone ever again and each pen cost over $100 - that’s what it feels like). How will I get a replacement pencil for this device if it falls down in an airport or out of my bag in some conference center far from home?
But as others have said, the iPad is a tried and tested device. It has a powerful ecosystem and great resolution. The base model comes with 128GB of on device storage. And it’s $600, significantly cheaper than this device. I find the price tag hard to justify in comparison .
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#660No headphone jack? Why?