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In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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do you have any other recs for firefox extensions?

Archive Page Bypass Paywalls Clean CSS Exfil Protection Decentraleyes DDG Privacy Essentials Ghostery NoScript Privacy Badger Privacy-Oriented Origin Policy Stylus Tampermonkey uBlock Origin uMatrix Yes, there is overkill in there but that's fine. It does not impact my browsing experience.

heads up, I think Decentraleyes has been superseded by a "LocalCDN", it's more frequently updated and I thing Decentraleyes has bee abandoned by the devs.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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The engine monopoly point has been kind of stupid for a while now. Blink is open source. It's a stable target. It's not vendor-locked. There is no problem with it having a monopoly, and I am sure the industry can decide to fork it or start over if the leadership goes absolutely cuckoo. When it comes to good open source projects, we WANT to be converging on that one leading project and ensuring it's the best it can be…

Mozilla could contribute to Blink, but that would not help it prevent Blink from adding e.g. Web Environment Integrity ("DRM for the web"), or other additions that are user-hostile. Being in control of an engine gives way more sway over that engine.

This is why browser diversity is where the action happens. Firefox and Brave can just nix the DRM components. Similar to how Brave itself or Ungoogled Chromium cut down Chromium's telemetry components. One engine underneath, many interfaces and options for power users and the concerned. We all save on the extremely hard work of building an entire other browser engine, and then expecting the whole industry to support it.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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I switched back to firefox last year and haven't looked back. I still use chrome on another laptop sometimes, the performance difference from my human perspective is literally zero. These days, it's much more common for me to encounter a website that works in firefox but not chrome than the other way around. I actually switched for good when I had to use firefox to file my taxes, because the IRS free self-file site w…

I'm a FF-first user but I definitely have had to keep Chrome around for a few things— my investment banking doesn't load in FF nor do some parts of Office 365.

Which parts of office365? I don't have any issues using it on FF. That said I'm not a heavy user (mainly outlook, word, sometimes PowerPoint).

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Hi, macOS user here. I know Firefox is great, and I'd love to use it (again), but Mozilla's decision to remove all user-facing, OS-level scripting capabilities from it (i.e., AppleScript) made me drop it a few years ago. Getting anything out of FF on macOS, locally, is a major pain in the ass, actually. Try to grab the current URL from the active tab… Add to that the non-macOS text handling, macOS-unlike font renderi…

Also a macOS user and I don't use Firefox for the same exact reasons you listed, despite really wanting to. It just behaves very rudely on macOS and it seems like more and more they are stripping out features, for example in the latest update they removed macOS Vibrancy support, so now my toolbar can't have any transparency, which looks horrible.

Not to mention they let that super noticeable bug with the system font not spacing correctly just linger for over two years. It's finally fixed but there is still a lot of weirdness with the way Firefox handles fonts on this platform and it's very obnoxious since macOS has best-in-class typography everywhere else.

I'll rejoice on the day Safari gets a proper extensions API. I'd 100% make the move to it if I could just run RES.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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I switched back to firefox last year and haven't looked back. I still use chrome on another laptop sometimes, the performance difference from my human perspective is literally zero. These days, it's much more common for me to encounter a website that works in firefox but not chrome than the other way around. I actually switched for good when I had to use firefox to file my taxes, because the IRS free self-file site w…

Firefox out of the box indeed does not cause broken websites. However, the demographic of this forum probably will use Firefox with "Multi-Account Containers", "Temporary Containers", "uBlock Origin", and a few more. These are amazing for privacy and productivity, but will occasionally cause broken websites. Source: I am a Firefox-first user who occasionally uses plugin-less Chrome because the aforementioned plugins…

I also had problems recently with an online notary service... they forced me to use Chrome...

Not the same problem, but I wonder when faxes will disappear... For example, Progressive Insurance wanted me fax, mail pictures or bring them in person... email didn't work... Of course they didn't have a safe way to transfer them digitally but I would not care if everyone in the world saw those emails.

The useless requirements that they set just proves that they don't understand technology.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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If you keep feeding the Google monster you soon won't be able to browse the internet without a 3rd party attesting that your computer is worth browsing that site. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/07/googles-web-integrit...

This was reworked to be a more limited proposal specific for Android Webviews, IIRC. Fairly recently (last month)?

It will come back again and again, and each time there will be less public outcry. It'll end up being normalized and eventually accepted. General purpose computers give the unwashed masses too much power.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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I have it on Firefox but it's a forced snap install so I can't download anything because snaps are sandboxed. I switched it at some point to the app version and uninstalled the snap. but it came back as a snap somehow!!!

Canonical is another problem that should be dealt with. I haven't trusted them since they put Amazon spyware links in the start menu bar.

Snaps are one of these strange antifeutures that somehow get forced on the users anyway.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Not only switch, find a way to contribute too, as this is an open source project. One can start with something small, like translations, answering to questions on forums, or triaging bugs.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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"Firefox out of the box indeed does not cause broken websites" .. for you. I regulary ran across something that does not work or has a broken style. And I know how to turn UO off. And why should that be a surprise? FF has way less manpower than Chrome. (And even fired lots of engineers, to raise the CEO bonus) Chrome leads the way and probably the vast majority developes for chrome and with chrome dev tools. So most…

Then we can compare brave and firefox in terms of speed. I don’t see any noticeable performance difference (I use both on linux and macos)

Then ... maybe have a look at some numbers:

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Firefox-Chrome-109-Benchmarks

And sadly it can be worse, with my quite complex app, that I absolutely did not tailor for chrome, but gone out of my way to also support FF - the result is that chrome is just 3x faster.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Anyone else remember Mitchell Baker (Firefox CEO) calling for more than deplatforming? https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/we-need-more-than-deplat...

I hadn't read that, thanks for sharing. The recommendations were shockingly reasonable, despite your framing.
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