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Re: The FTC sues to break up Amazon over an economy-wide “hidden tax”

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Post by slikrick » Mon, Oct 09, 2023, 1:10 PM UTC

PartiallyTyped wrote: post #372

trinsic2 wrote: post #294

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Microsoft should be the first one to be split up. Their dominant position is more pervasive than any other market because the operating system people use in their computers is the gateway to get too these other services. The second should be Apple for the same reasons. Then Amazon.

I fail to see why apple should be split. Nobody forces people to buy macs, very few do, and as for iPhones, there are alternatives and apple doesn’t have a monopoly over the phone industry. You can very well use icloud on other OSes too.

you can't use 99% of apple services on Android. no apple maps, no find my, no iMessage, no apple calendar, no reminders.

nobody forces people to use windows either, but yet a company having 60% of the global phone market is pretty comparable considering that's literally probably more phones than people actively using windows daily

Re: The FTC sues to break up Amazon over an economy-wide “hidden tax”

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Post by tekknik » Tue, Oct 10, 2023, 7:16 AM UTC

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #648

tekknik wrote: post #647

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I reverse this question to you, what is the solution? I have none but asking companies to change will do nothing. Forcing them to change is a dictatorship. So you tell me what the solution is?

1. Set the example by creating or joining organizations that are not based on Capital owning the majority of the organization (cooperatives, non-stock not-for profit etc..) 2. Increase taxes on non-labor capital growth to directly fund full employment programs Eg make "profit" impossible

And i state again, setting an example will do nothing, as it hasn’t.

Banning MBAs will have more of an effect.

Re: The FTC sues to break up Amazon over an economy-wide “hidden tax”

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Post by tekknik » Thu, Oct 12, 2023, 1:44 AM UTC

zelphirkalt wrote: post #607

tekknik wrote: post #605

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> No, the actual way is to go company by company and dismantle them. And by Starting with the biggest it sends a message to others that perhaps they should change before they too get broken up. You will never finish if you go company by company, there’s just too many. Additionally no company ever stops anything until forced to. Your suggestions will not solve anything.

If they are all so interchangable, then I guess no one should care too much about them being split up either. Just need a high enough frequency of splitting to keep the market sane.

Are you suggesting free markets are a bad thing? If people think it’s bad, they can stop using the company. If you can’t convince everybody that it’s bad and they should stop using the company, then doesn’t this mean your thoughts are not the average?