I wish GPT4 had never happened

Post by Sakos » Sat, Apr 08, 2023, 5:38 PM UTC

neogodless wrote: post #516

pavlov wrote: post #492

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The grandparent comment does contain a definition: “A […] system that […] would make people welcome better AI because they could be confident it would make everyone wealthier” That would be a fair system regardless of the specifics of how it’s achieved.

One clarifying point: Even when nearly everyone gets wealthier , if inequality grows, most people don't feel like it's fair .

Post by renewiltord » Sat, Apr 08, 2023, 5:39 PM UTC

bandyaboot wrote: post #625

renewiltord wrote: post #532

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Well, then we have been living in a system that's as close to fair as possible since global individual wealth has been growing for a long time. The few times we had it shrink significantly over some period of time is when local populations attempted forced wealth distribution. Our present system, by this definition, is amazing!

> Well, then we have been living in a system that's as close to fair as possible since global individual wealth has been growing for a long time. That’s a non-sequitur.

Post by mertd » Sat, Apr 08, 2023, 5:40 PM UTC

bayarearefugee wrote: post #646

qaq wrote: post #629

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Well maybe shift to "real world" professions will occur resulting in us addressing abysmal infrastructure and housing situation. I am looking at picking up a trade because of this coming shift.

I don't think people appreciate the mass disruption of a shift like this happening across so many industries all at the same time. This sort of professional shift works when automation comes for a subset of a single sector, but we're looking at an everywhere all at once situation. How many plumbers are we going to need, exactly? I also don't think people appreciate the absolute social turmoil that will occur as a res…

Post by s__s » Sat, Apr 08, 2023, 5:41 PM UTC

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goodluckchuck wrote: post #602

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Capitalism is not an economic system, it is a description of fundamental economics. Countries can have a highly regulated form of capitalism where trade and ownership is strictly controlled… and they’re often called socialist or communist, or a laissez faire system. However, so long as people are using land, buildings structures, designing equipment… the laws of capitalism will apply.

Capitalism isn’t a fundamental law like the speed of light or thermodynamics. We can use other systems that suit our goals better. Even if it’s a better form of capitalism than what we’re dealing with now. This post-monetarist form of capitalism is killing people and this planet and enriching but a few. That’s not the kind of society most people want. A matter of time before there are enough have-nots and upheaval be…

Post by nr2x » Sat, Apr 08, 2023, 5:42 PM UTC

saulpw wrote: post #508

_fat_santa wrote: post #491

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By this logic, Priya (the subject of the authors post) would not loose her job but rather just become more productive at her job. And I think that's the key to this whole "GPT4 is taking our jobs argument" that people need to understand, GPT is a bit like Autopilot in a Tesla, it can do the work for you but you still need a trained person there to guide it. Folks like Priya will not loose their jobs IMO, the company…

With GPT-4, Priya can do the work of 10 data curators in the same amount of time! She won't lose her job, they can afford to pay her more, because they won't need to pay 9 of her colleagues. Unless of course, one of her more experienced, connected, upper caste colleagues gets the 10x job instead.