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Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by jjcon »

patife wrote: post #132
martin_a wrote: post #103

Can someone very briefly wrap this whole "SF is broken"-situation up for somebody from Europe? I only ever read that it's "because of the policies" and there are lots of rather disturbing videos about SF making its rounds on YouTube. But what exactly happened? Did they just remove all the police? Did they gave out free drugs to everybody? I'm not interested in blaming political parties, I just want to get a quick gra…

I see a lot of comments about how it’s gotten terrible recently etc. I’m not from the US, but I’ve been to SF a number on times (>5). The first time was in 2006 for apple WWDC, as a student, and back then I already witnessed a number of people wandering in the streets, mostly passed out or wandering, but I also saw peopoe shouting at the air, and defecating and throwing stuff. At the time I was told this was a legacy…

California is 48th in the US for veterans per capita so I sorta doubt veterans make up even a few percent of those

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

cheeseblubber wrote: post #529

Here are some statistics that might help the discussion: "With a crime rate of 54 per one thousand residents, San Francisco has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 18." https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca/san-francisco/crime#des... A…

When someone says C = A + B, you begin to wonder how much A (violent crime) and B (property crime) are. Yes, SF has a lot of B, but it hasn't had a lot of A, so this stabbing is really shocking to me.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by Apofis »

browningstreet wrote: post #627

I'm not putting any blame on Bob here (I've always been a dawn guy, not a night owl), but the city I'm in (not CA anymore) has lots of its bad things happening at 2am (the time of his stabbing) too. When I was working in SF (downtown, SoMa, FiDi) I had a schedule that got me to a gym at 5am, the office at 7am, and back on Bart before 4pm. I can't remember the last time I was in SF after dark. Walking the city at 5-7a…

It really struck me that he was out that late on a Tuesday... could have been a mugging when he was on the way back home from something... but the time just doesn't feel right. A mugging on the weekend late night seems more likely for a variety of reasons. Then again, I've seen recordings of individuals with mental health issues that literally just randomly attack a stranger completely unprovoked, so who knows anymore.

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aEJ04Izw5HYm wrote: post #555

Can we take a minute to re-direct this conversation away from just the politics of SF? I want to draw attention to Bob Lee, a well-respected technologist and prototype hacker, always curious and sharing lots of interesting technical developments. He was a great role model for how Engineers should be respected in an executive capacity as he advanced his career from 'Software' to 'Product'. His efforts contributed to t…

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Post by FanaHOVA »

ironman1478 wrote: post #637
arzanr wrote: post #581

Everyone commenting on here about how bad things are in SF has likely rarely or never stepped into the core parts of Protrero Hill, Noe Valley, Richmond, Sunset, Glenn Park, Forest Hill etc. SF is a tale of two cities divided by natural barriers. There is a side to the city where you see almost no drugs, or homelessness. This is not a dismissal of the real issues facing the city but an acknowledgement that it is stil…

Noe valley and Richmond have homeless people. In the Richmond, on geary you'll see a lot of homelessness and drugs, especially from 4th-10th. There are also a few near Safeway on cabrillo. In noe you'd definitely see it on 12th Street. I've seen some really unstable people clear out coffee shops because they we were ranting in the middle of the shop. There aren't many homeless people in the purely residential areas,…

12th St isn't even close to being in Noe. There's usually two homeless people in Noe, one woman who always sleeps between Church and Noe on 24th St, and an older man. Outside of the misfortune of being homeless, they don't really cause any troubles, and most people in the neighborhood often give them food or a warm tea / coffee. There's not much we can do on our own, and the city doesn't really seem to help sadly.

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Post by cyrialize »

rfwhyte wrote: post #613
kenneth wrote: post #151

I find it shocking that anyone still chooses to live in this broken city. I left >4 years ago and am never coming back. It's unfixable. Let's move the tech industry somewhere that isn't rotten to the core.

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I see this mentioned often when people move to SF or other large cities and then complain about a lack of culture.

The people who brought culture into a city and were part of the city for a while end up leaving due to prices being driven high because of the tech industry (or really anything that causes huge price spikes).

Cities become known for their people and their culture. If nothing is done to keep those people in the city, then no wonder this complaint pops up.

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Post by greatDEBONKER »

aEJ04Izw5HYm wrote: post #555

Can we take a minute to re-direct this conversation away from just the politics of SF? I want to draw attention to Bob Lee, a well-respected technologist and prototype hacker, always curious and sharing lots of interesting technical developments. He was a great role model for how Engineers should be respected in an executive capacity as he advanced his career from 'Software' to 'Product'. His efforts contributed to t…

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Post by dkn775 »

syntheweave wrote: post #232
martin_a wrote: post #103

Can someone very briefly wrap this whole "SF is broken"-situation up for somebody from Europe? I only ever read that it's "because of the policies" and there are lots of rather disturbing videos about SF making its rounds on YouTube. But what exactly happened? Did they just remove all the police? Did they gave out free drugs to everybody? I'm not interested in blaming political parties, I just want to get a quick gra…

I have lived in SF my whole life. It's not that anything specific has changed in SF - it's more a case of, the political machine has been running very smoothly in a way that does little to help anyone in particular, and occasionally it manifests as an "oopsie we let someone die". The designated narrative role of SF since the 70's, as a Democratic Party stronghold, is to be praised from the left for progressive polici…

This is a great comment that comes from someone who is knowledgeable about local government. Same thing happens here In Baltimore. They call it poverty pimping, or poverty industrial complex
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