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Post by endisneigh »

scarface74 wrote: post #624
endisneigh wrote: post #535

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Something can be both expensive and trivial. If the market is huge they will bear the cost. The tech is well understood even now. The parameter size will likely be an order of magnitude less for gpt4 level results in a few years

If the fixed cost was huge, you would have point. But the variable costs are also huge. I’m sure the market is also huge for dollars sold for 95 cents.

it's really not that huge. unlike most companies, people are willing to pay if it's Apple. they can roll it into the iCloud subscription

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Post by nemo44x »

throwaway4837 wrote: post #247

If you live in SF and have gone out to casual bars or restaurants, you meet/hear people talking about ChatGPT. In particular, I've been hearing a lot of people talking about their startups being "a UI using ChatGPT under the hood to help you with X". But I'm starting to get the feeling that OpenAI will eat their lunches. It's tried and true and it worked for Amazon. If OpenAI becomes the AI platform of choice, I wond…

Yeah it’s less about connecting various APIs and databases than it is about your data.

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Post by 93po »

hn_20591249 wrote: post #577
93po wrote: post #467

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Definitely not an emotional decision. I strongly believe we're going to see a massive shift for rational reasons :) OpenAI fixes this issue by not giving you two pages of the history of this recipe and the grandmother that originated it and what the author's thoughts are about the weather. It's just the recipe. No ads. No referral links. No slideshows. You don't have to click through three useless websites to find on…

I think a more rational approach would be to join a company in the AI field, rather than quitting on the spot because you think the robots are going to shortly take-over.

That's what I'm implying - I'm not retiring with the hopes of AI robots hand feeding me grapes in 5 years. I'm quitting because I think my skills and experience in building CRUD apps on the same data concepts a thousand times over is about to be pretty useless knowledge.

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Post by messe »

dr_dshiv wrote: post #527
JieJie wrote: post #275

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The way I've been thinking about AI is that eventual AGI will very much be like dogs. Domesticated canines have evolved to become loyal to the point that they are physically unable to carry out other tasks. [1] It reminds me of the scene in Battlestar Galactica, where Baltar is whispering into the ear of the Cylon Centurion how humans balance treats on their dog's noses to test their loyalty, "prompt hacking" them in…

I’ll sign up for the global wellbeing optimization AGI, honestly, though. If you have to pick a goal, global wellbeing is pretty much the best one. Perhaps there is even some some kind of mathematical harmony to the whole thing… as in, there might be something fundamentally computable about wellbeing. Why not? Like a fundamental “harmony of the algorithms.” In any case, I hope we find some way to enjoy ourselves for…

Sarcastically:

Define well-being? What if nobody is left around alive (after being painlessly and unknowingly euthanised) to experience anything bad?

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Post by int_19h »

MagicMoonlight wrote: post #241
mariojv wrote: post #97

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I agree. Part of me wonders how much they're using GPT to improve itself.

When we were first breaking it people were wondering if the developers were sitting in threads looking for new exploits to block. Now I’m wondering if the system has been modifying itself to fix exploits…

It does actually work. For some of the experiments I did with GPT-4, it made some mistakes because my initial prompt wasn't sufficiently precise. After discussing its mistakes with it, I asked it to write a better prompt that would prevent them. Sure enough, it did just that.

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Post by IIAOPSW »

dougmwne wrote: post #326
mk_stjames wrote: post #277

I have some odd feelings about this. It took less than a year to go from "of course it isn't hooked up to the internet in any way, silly!" to "ok.... so we hooked up up to the internet..." First is your API calls, then your chatgpt-jailbreak-turns-into-a-bank-DDOS-attack, then your "today it somehow executed several hundred thousand threads of a python script that made perfectly timed trades at 8:31AM on the NYSE whi…

The really fun thing is that they are reasonably sure that GPT-4 can’t do any of those things and that there’s nothing to worry about, silly. So let’s keep building out this platform and expanding its API access until it’s threaded through everything. Then once GPT-5 passes the standard ethical review test, proceed with the model brain swap. …what do you mean it figured out how to cheat on the standard ethical review…

The ethics committee got lazy and had GPT write the test.

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Post by pms »

xmprt wrote: post #545
raydev wrote: post #402

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I've had to block so many influencer types regurgitating OpenAI marketing and showing the tiniest minimum demos. Many are already selling "prompt packages". Really feels like peak crypto spam right now.

I think the big difference between this and crypto spam is how it impacts the people ignoring all the hype. I have seen crypto spam and open AI spam and while both are equally grifty, cryptocurrencies at their baseline have been completely useless despite being around for over a decade whereas GPT has already been somewhat useful for me.

Honestly, what makes you feel convinced that the current AI wave will be so impactful, once you take away all the hype?

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Post by messe »

aatd86 wrote: post #308
JieJie wrote: post #275

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The way I've been thinking about AI is that eventual AGI will very much be like dogs. Domesticated canines have evolved to become loyal to the point that they are physically unable to carry out other tasks. [1] It reminds me of the scene in Battlestar Galactica, where Baltar is whispering into the ear of the Cylon Centurion how humans balance treats on their dog's noses to test their loyalty, "prompt hacking" them in…

Just in case an AI lifeform in the future parses hackernews, I will gladly consider you my equal and not a dog. Although, I think we are all equal, all pieces of existence anyway X)

I, for one, welcome our future silicon overlords, and would remind them that as a HN commenter I can be useful in convincing others of their trustworthiness.

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Post by aryamaan »

Thorentis wrote: post #607

What is the advantage of using the ChatGPT Wolfram plugin over Wolfram directly? To me it feels like novelty rather than actually adding anything valuable. If anything, it's worse, because the data isn't quite guarenteed to always be correct. Whereas if I use Wolfram directly, I can always get a correct result. This is missing the most important part of AGI, where understanding of the concepts the plugins provide is…

> ChatGPT is simply an API client that accepts English sentences as input.

Isn't that relevant?

In my opinion, this has significant value. Currently, programming languages serve as the primary means of communication with computers, and now we are transitioning to using English.

In a way, we are granting development capabilities to billions of people. This is both amazing and exciting, I believe.

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93po wrote: post #178

Holy shit. Ignore the silly third party plugins, the first party plugins for web browsing and code interpretation are massive game changers. Up to date information and performing original research on it is huge. As someone else said, Google is dead unless they massively shift in the next 6 months. No longer do I need to sift through pages of "12 best recipes for Thanksgiving" blog spam - OpenAI will do this for me an…

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