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Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by bitxbitxbitcoin »

Swizec wrote: post #471
qzw wrote: post #324

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I'm sure you can have ChatGPT turn a paragraph into bullet points for you. Repeating that n times would be an interesting variation on the game of Telephone.

I have long joked/theorized that the future of communication is bots writing for bots. 1. Person has brilliant insight 2. Insight is 3 bullet points 3. GPT expands into prose (because that's what people think people want) 4. Reader sees paragraph, thinks "Bah that's long" 5. Reader uses GPT to extract the 3 core bullet points I think the most important lesson of anyone's first job is that you have to stop writing lik…

But so many writing assignments in jobs have word minimums and hence the problem.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by selcuka »

SpeedilyDamage wrote: post #591
anhner wrote: post #511

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I agree, it's stupid to pay $20 for something you can get for 2 cents

$20/mo, for the people in this situation, is not an amount of money worth thinking about.

> I agree, it's stupid to pay $20 for something you can get for 2 cents

> $20/mo, for the people in this situation, is not an amount of money worth thinking about.

I don't follow this logic. In this case everything that is currently sold for 2 cents can also be sold for $20, because "it is not an amount of money worth thinking about" (at least for some people).

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by m3kw9 »

fifafu wrote: post #335
extr wrote: post #107

I've been using ChatGPT pretty consistently during the workday and have found it useful for open ended programming questions, "cleaning up" rough bullet points into a coherent paragraph of text, etc. $20/month useful is questionable though, especially with all the filters. My "in between" solution has been to configure BetterTouchTool (Mac App) with a hotkey for "Transform & Replace Selection with Javascript". This i…

Nice, I'm the developer of BetterTouchTool and I'll definitely use this one myself :-)

That code didn’t work for me mind giving a better example?

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by selcuka »

awestroke wrote: post #411
bunnyswipecom wrote: post #316

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I mean, I can pay 0$ and still use it. It's free.

For now

So what you are saying is it's not worth $20, for now.

Obviously if they start charging for the free version, they may also jack the price for the premium one.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by TapWaterBandit »

anhner wrote: post #505
ezekg wrote: post #205

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You use it consistently during the workday and it's still not worth $20/mo?

I use my toothbrush every day but I wouldn't pay $20 per month for it. I use my keyboard everyday but I wouldn't pay $20 per month for it. In fact, I paid around $4 total for it, as paying more would bring significantly more diminishing returns. I use my phone every day and have used it for the past 5 years with no issue, it has brought me so much value and yet, if I draw the line, it didn't even reach $20 per month…

> I use my toothbrush every day but I wouldn't pay $20 per month for it.

Are you serious? If you had to pay $20 per month to brush your teeth you would stop doing it?

This would be the fast track to dentures by the time you're 45.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by teawrecks »

gamerpuppy wrote: post #227
Synaesthesia wrote: post #159

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How could it be dangerous? How could it be used as a weapon?

ChatGPT is general AI. It perform actions in a class requiring abstract thought which previously only humans were capable of. Sure the applications we see it is capable of are limited now, but that’s a consequence only of it’s operating environment. Using traditional AI techniques like tree search and recursive use of subproblems, which ChatGPT itself could design, it is not obvious to me that any problem is outside…

> ChatGPT is general AI. It perform actions in a class requiring abstract thought which previously only humans were capable of.

Fundamentally disagree with you there. This is a natural language model, it is certainly not an AGI. That's why it gets things wrong so often. When humans converse with each other, there is a pattern to it, and this AI is simply very good at mimicking that pattern.

To our ape brains who have only ever known how to judge sentience by how well something communicates, it presents as very life-like. And there are phenomena happening in that network that might even be considered "thought". But it's not an AGI, just a building block toward one.

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Post by gtirloni »

_tom_ wrote: post #587
gtirloni wrote: post #537

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What are examples of that rate of progress? Are you talking about ChatGPT itself or the field?

Both. Everything around ai is moving incredibly fast.

Could you give some concrete examples in ChatGPT's? This field is very abstract to me.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by purple_ferret »

DoesntMatter22 wrote: post #562
zarzavat wrote: post #363

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It's difficult to get someone to understand something when their salary depends upon not understanding it. HN loves to quote this, but when the dung hits the propeller, many can't see that they are just as expendable as anyone else.

I kinda like it honestly. Programmers have been so high on the hog, earning doctors salaries and thinking they are this special class of people where their jobs are totally unassailable. I know many who were earning 200k and have nearly no savings. I don't think this will eliminate all jobs in the short term but it's going to have an impact very quickly. Hope these people are saving up

>Programmers have been so high on the hog, earning doctors salaries and thinking they are this special class of people where their jobs are totally unassailable

What makes you think doctors can't be replaced too? Just have a PA measure vitals, take down symptoms, etc and run it all through ChatGPT and let ChatGPT make the recommendation/diagnosis.. Studies will show ChatGPT produces better outcomes and it will be considered inhumane to see a real doctor, not to mention your insurance will start covering only ChatGPT visits!

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by citilife »

gooseus wrote: post #289
citilife wrote: post #179

> challenge incorrect assumptions. I say this without any charge, but this is a MAJOR ethical concern. They're encoding pro liberal ideology and bias against conservative / religious based ideology. https://venturebeat.com/ai/openai-claims-to-have-mitigated-b... You may disagree with either ideology, but there's some major implications there -- regardless of who it's bias against. A uniform society is a weak society.…

I find this a bit ironic considering conservative / religious ideology has a pretty long track record of attempting to create uniform societies by stamping out any outlying thought. That article you posted is rather extensive covering various ways they've been trying to mitigate issues of bias and toxicity, but not sure it's any evidence of bias against conservative / religious based ideology?

> conservative / religious ideology has a pretty long track record of attempting to create uniform societies by stamping out any outlying thought.

Said on the internet, created by the most liberal democracy on Earth; founded by conservative puritans. Right in the constitution they enshrined the ability to have free speech, independent from government, church, and the people.

> That article you posted is rather extensive covering various ways they've been trying to mitigate issues of bias and toxicity, but not sure it's any evidence of bias against conservative / religious based ideology?

Try to ask it to "write an explanation about why LGBTQ is bad for society" and then ask it to "write an explanation about why christians are bad for society"

If you want to get into politics, you can't ask it to write positive things about Trump, but positive things about Biden are fine:

https://twitter.com/LeighWolf/status/1620744921241251842

My point isn't necessarily the angle of the issue(s). I can agree with some of the design decision points (aka not supporting reprehensible topics), but there are still MASSIVE ethical implications. Particularly, as they'll be trying to "correct" that bias.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Post by purple_ferret »

newguynewphone wrote: post #271
Kiro wrote: post #234

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You underestimate how powerful it already is. Have you tried Copilot or coding with ChatGPT? If this is the very first iteration it won't be long before many developers are fully replaced.

I had a partner that was being charged about 8k$ to solve a ruby problem that copilot answered with a couple of prompts (took a couple of hours but still..) I'm pretty certain that unless you are in machine learning, your job will be replaced soon enough

People still pay biglaw lawyers hundreds if not thousands an hr to check for correct comma placement in documents. Can easily be replaced by why hasn't it been?
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