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Re: Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now?

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Although TBF office and windows have gotten worse with every version at least since the 1990s.

They ruined office with … removing Excel’s 64k row limit, better file format, collaborative editing and better data analysis functions?

If you're using a tool like excel to work with data with more than 64,000 rows or analyze data, or if you're collaboratively editing a dataset in a non-version-controlled format... best of luck to you, I'll send flowers to your widow.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now?

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These are mostly non-sequiturs, with some plausible cases. For example - I don't think subscription licensing for media is moral, and I think legally it's a rife place for some serious case law. Simple example - Recording shows for personal consumption (time shifting) is absolutely allowed under current copyright law. If I subscribe to netflix for a month and record every show I want to watch to my personal NAS... I'…

> But... what if I really do want a moral way to consume netflix content at a later date for a non-recurring, non-changed-at-their-whim cost? Well - sucks to be me because there's literally no way to buy it. I think that's also fairly immoral. I'm literally being held captive to a subscription for eternity, with no way to negotiate the deal, and the real loss of any catalogue item at any time with no recourse. Moral?…

> Most content can be purchased outside of Netflix at some point, on DVD or another medium.

You cannot buy Netflix original movies on DVD or blu-ray. They do sell some of their series (although not all of them - mostly just the very popular entries).

Re: Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now?

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Don't give them any ideas. Could you imagine having to have separate subscriptions for O'Reilly, Shuster, and Penguin, etc.

They already got the idea. Look up the "O'Reilly Learning Platform"

I find that alright actually. It gives one access to a lot of books, not just O'Reilly ones. You can scan trough a lot of books there, and buy paper copies (elsewhere) of those you want for your bookshelf

Re: Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now?

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> So yeah, why is that? And is anyone else tired of the constant barrage of subscriptions for things that should be one off purchases?

New models of Fitbit require a subscription to unlock the full feature set – I decided not to upgrade the device at all as long as the old one still works.

There are one-off purchases for services – e.g. generate an AI video in order to gift it to someone. Many services provide monthly subscriptions with a fixed amount of credits. For creators and folks with businesses subscriptions make sense, but for occasional, one-time use it makes zero sense. While I'd be willing to just pay-per-use, I will walk away from services offering subscriptions only.

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They already got the idea. Look up the "O'Reilly Learning Platform"

I find that alright actually. It gives one access to a lot of books, not just O'Reilly ones. You can scan trough a lot of books there, and buy paper copies (elsewhere) of those you want for your bookshelf

Oh, I don't mind it either. It's not like they're stopping to sell paper copies. I used it a long time ago, my employer had a company account, it was great.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now?

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You've mixed subscription based services (Google storage space) and content (Spotify) with subscription based software. For services, it might make sense. Even so, what exactly is "getting better all the time" about Spotify the software? It's been the same for like 5 years now. As for the rest: 1Password declined (turned to Electron shit), Creative Cloud keeps adding bloat while not adressing decades standing issues,…

IntelliJ has arguably one of the best subscription models for tools. It works offline and they have fallback licenses so if they doubled the price and I cancel I’m still legally entitled to a recent version that I’ll probably be happy enough with until I find the motivation to replace it with something else. If Adobe worked like that I’d be like 75% pissed off at their products and pricing.

arguably... then I'll argue the opposite (even as a subscriber). Jetbrains rolls your subscription back to the version on the day you purchased, not the last version in your subscription. If you purchase and immediately find a bug, you know you're rolling back to that bug unless you pay a renewal next year. Same goes for any fixes you got during that entire year. Poof, gone.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now?

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I just surveyed the market for bug tracking systems, and ended up installing Redmine to get away from saas. I installed it with a template onto a cloud server in a couple of clicks. It is not sexy, but it is robust... and exactly what I needed!

So.. you moved the software to a server that runs in the cloud. So sorta-SaaS? ;-)

I don't think that is close to being the same thing!

Re: Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now?

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Not really, because I saw too many software companies go out of business because not enough people wound up upgrading to the next major version -- the ownership model of software can be awfully feast-or-famine for developers' income, it's a very tough/risky business model. Generally speaking, I'm happy to pay a subscription because this way I get a steady stream of all the updates, and it's much more likely the compa…

It's so much worse when a subscription business fails. You can lose access to your data with very little notice to migrate. At least standalone software keeps working for a while after the company maintaining it is gone.

That’s really a DRM issue for non-SaaS software: how do you activate software.
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