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Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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No

AWS got $10 billion from the NSA last year. Do you really think Bezos' Washington Post is going to be publishing anything that might derail contracts of that value?

Why would NSA stop using AWS just because WaPo wrote something about NSA? It doesn’t make sense, really.

Only thing that should really matter to NSA in regards to using AWS is, does AWS offer the products they need, at the price they want to pay.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Ah damn, I hoped for a fair experiment to demonstrate absordity of total free speech, but istead we got bog standard hypocracy! Boo! If you are caught wondering why some people still support Elon - in 'true conservative' society, like Russia or Saudi states, hypocracy is means of demonstrating hierarchy. So as a leader, you show that you are dominant by demonstrating that rules don't apply to you. That makes you even…

This is always how it goes. Free speech absolutists that run web communities basically always stop short the moment they feel like they are under threat (regardless of any actual threat). Even the most infamous of free speech platforms will just ban users who hurt the admins feelings. Back when Gab switched over to using a hostile fork of Mastodon for a backend[0], Torba banned the users of FreeSpeechExtremist (a Ple…

> It's always "free speech for me, not for thee" with these people.

That's what pretty much everybody is doing at this point.

Elon's critics rightly point out the problems with his arbitrary rule by fiat, but who among his critics are proposing anything more principled than his behavior? By and large, people are calling him a hypocrite without articulating any more principled vision for how social media platforms should be run.

> You don't get this anger when the rules include in a clearly written way: "if I don't like what you're doing, for any reason, you're out" (also known as the escape hatch clause).

This sounds like basically codifying the current Elon Musk mode of governance. Are you really suggesting that the Internet would be better if every social media site was operated in this way, as long as it is explicit in the rules?

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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post #574

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> Please don’t just move to another centralized platform. Do you believe that all centralized platforms are inherently evil?

Well, they’re particularly vulnerable to the current twitter failure mode.

Sure, but there are other centralized services not implementing such policies, and I don't think Twitter would exist today in current form if not for being centralized & well funded. I guess there are just tradeoffs in either choice.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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The policy says comments like, "follow me @ on Instagram" are explicitly forbidden. One could very easily argue linking to ones own Facebook post could fall afoul.

There is a whole section on how cross posting is permitted: https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/social-platfo... > What is not a violation of this policy? > We recognize that certain social media platforms provide alternative experiences to Twitter, and allow users to post content to Twitter from these platforms. In general, any type of cross-posting to our platform is not in violation of this policy, even…

"Cross-posting" is generally understood to mean posting the same content to different sites, not merely linking to a post.

The policy is...not at all clear. I don't know what they mean by posting content "from" a prohibited site. They don't specifically mention a link.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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AWS got $10 billion from the NSA last year. Do you really think Bezos' Washington Post is going to be publishing anything that might derail contracts of that value?

Why would NSA stop using AWS just because WaPo wrote something about NSA? It doesn’t make sense, really. Only thing that should really matter to NSA in regards to using AWS is, does AWS offer the products they need, at the price they want to pay.

Maybe what matters to NSA bureaucrats making contracting decisions is knowing that Bezos will give them lucrative private sector jobs? Maybe exposing these public-private relationships between black-budget agencies and private tech outfits is something Post editors are now reluctant to examine in any detail?

> "Amazon today elected Keith Alexander, a retired four-star general of the U.S. Army, as it newest board director. Alexander was previously director of the National Security Agency and chief of the Central Security Service from 2005 to 2014. (Sep 9, 2020)"

Just a coincidence, nothing to see here.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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post #540

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Free while there are alternatives. After they asfixiated the competition they're free to jack up the prices. Smart business practice really.

Right because it’s really hard for someone to set up a git server somewhere and change the origin.

That's why they introduce proprietary features like GitHub Actions.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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post #12

Twitter's creditors must be just foaming at the mouth right now. Their investment is just cratering in value.

It was always a battle just to keep the lights on. I'm sure they're just glad it didn't collapse under their watch.

Twitter’s creditors, to be clear, are largely _new_ creditors. Old-twitter didn’t have much debt load; the 13bn or whatever is a product of the acquisition.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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(from another thread) Any attorneys want to weigh in on whether - or when - this becomes an anti-competitive/anti-trust concern, either in the US (FTC) or the EU? Related reading: * Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU) Article 102, on abusive conduct by companies that have a dominant position in a market: https://competition-policy.ec.europa.eu/antitrust/procedures... . Any EU resident can file a co…

I don’t see how this is a legal problem for Twitter, at least in the U.S. They are not a dominant force on the Web or even in social media; they have little market power. And any data that shows lots of people leaving for other social media platforms would actually help prove that competition is strong (ironically). Free speech cuts both ways. It’s legal for Twitter to block links to Mastodon for the same reason it w…

Twitter has very considerable market power. That's the term in law, not "dominant force on the Web" or monopoly. No-one can use market power to extend or preserve market power. That's precisely what's happened.
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