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Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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I don't they're doing code reviews to understand the quality of the code. I think he's getting a few people he can trust to know their way around the architecture, so tomorrow if some employee decides it's a righteous cause to down the service, they still have some semblance of control and are better prepared to troubleshoot.

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For those who don't remember, one example of just how badly they can fuck up their software, the operating system on Teslas for a number of years was based on a default Ubuntu that wrote logs which destroyed the SSD. Exceeded the total write wear leveling endurance after just 1-2 years of use of the car. Required total motherboard replacement on a great number of cars, because of course the ssd was permanently solder…

This was such a basic, newbie mistake that everyone I knew who had ever worked even minimally in embedded couldn't believe they were that incompetent and inexperienced.

Telecom systems and ISP people were also astonished, as it is quite normal for core switching and routing equipment to have a very limited write endurance solid state boot and OS storage device. For a long time very serious $300,000+ routers booted off compact flash cards, back in the day.

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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A great attempt to dodge vesting schedules and escape doling out severance. Even if they convince many engineers to quit willingly, one presumes that the next step is rounds of layoffs with cause . California is at-will, but notoriously anal regarding mass-layoffs. My serious question is, regardless of with or without cause, surely some employment attorneys are licking their lips at the stack of prospective cases the…

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This reeks of the arrogance someone who has never gone through recession layoffs. Sometimes your division gets slashed for no reason other then your vp wasn’t slightly more persuasive. When investors want to see cuts, lots of good people end up fired for no reason other than bad luck.

Trying to time a parachute into a not super terrible market isn’t the worst idea. Plus usually the first and second round are the most generous. As belt tightening gets worse and the PR isn’t as bad expect worse benefits.

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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I dunno why any Twitter engineers would be really trying that hard right now. Passively destroying Twitter from within by not trying, and trying to make a billionare lose 44 billion dollars is a significantly more fun and interesting challenge than making Twitter a better product.

If these numbers are right and they're laying off 50% the workforce, half of me wonders how much Parag could raise to build a new Twitter from scratch and just hire 500 - 1000 talented folks off the street for the venture, I mean if Travis K could raise almost a billion for his shitty ghost kitchen venture I'd have to think they could get enough runway to get something launched pretty quickly. There's so many "What w…

Didn't Kalanick raise that money for his "shitty ghost kitchen venture" after using Uber Eats to prove that the model would actually be more lucrative than the cab-service?

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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I think people are looking at this the wrong way. It's not so much about the code as it is about establishing an authority. Musk takeover is often regarded as banditry and I wouldn't be surprised if the employees didn't take him seriously in the beginning. This is his way of saying, "I don't trust you, I don't know what you have been up to but things are going to be different so better get used to it." Using Tesla en…

> I don't think they can get a clear picture by looking at last 30 days of code I can very quickly spot developers who are mediocre or worse by looking at their last 30 days off code. (As long as it's a language I have decent experience in.) I suspect he's trying to access the team's technical competence.

No you can't because being a good developer isn't always about smashing out code, I've easily spent 30 days with great developers talking about planning and implementation before much code is written.

Hopefully it's not you who is the mediocre developer?

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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Once upon a time at Tesla, Elon brought SpaceX staff in to weed out the undesirables. The autopilot team didn’t like being quizzed on basic c/c++ questions and that was the first time almost all of AutoPilot quit. Or so I heard.

Look how well all of that ended...

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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The most bizarre aspect of this was when Twitter engineers were told to print out their code on paper. There is literally no good reason to do that. At best it is staggering incompetence. At worst it is an intentionally pointless and expensive exercise that serves purely as a loyalty test.

The text messages that were published as part of the suit to close the acquisition showed Musk discussing "return to office" as a way to naturally trim some of the workforce by having the dissatisfied remote workers quit on their own. My take on the paper printing is that it is a similar strategy to get people to quit by themselves, because they think it's stupid.

Yup, Jason Calacanis "back of napkin"ing a 30% reduction in workforce based on nothing more than some texts with Musk and an hour or two of bloviating.

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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This reeks of the arrogance someone who has never gone through recession layoffs. Sometimes your division gets slashed for no reason other then your vp wasn’t slightly more persuasive. When investors want to see cuts, lots of good people end up fired for no reason other than bad luck. Trying to time a parachute into a not super terrible market isn’t the worst idea. Plus usually the first and second round are the most…

Yeah lol, it definitely has the same vibes I see from people that are like:

"Corporations aren't people, they're capitalistic entities. They don't owe you anything" while also turning around and saying "how greedy of you to act in your own self interest and not to the benefit of your company!!"

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I'd be pissed off if I were a TSLA stock owner. Is Twitter paying Tesla to contract out these employees for their work? Otherwise, it's tons of thousands of dollars Tesla is pissing away on behalf of the CEO's side-hustle.

There is a lot of cross pollination between his companies, that’s is fine: - new materials from SpaceX make it into Tesla cars - productions techniques from Tesla goes into SpaceX rockets - Semiconductor teams from Starlink probably connected to Tesla It mean the best engineers get even more opportunities. win-win Less red tape, more work get done. I think we should all embrace that. Our goal should be to make things…

Now do Amazon and give your take on how it's great for society for them to branch out into every business sector imaginable.
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