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Re: As TikTok grows, so does suspicion

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Post by throwaway29812 » Fri, Jul 15, 2022, 8:51 PM UTC

L0stRegulator wrote: post #400

throwaway4good wrote: post #161

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Yes. What would be a good way to regulate this; still allowing open and fair competition while protecting the privacy of the broad population? So if the EU forces Facebook to store EU's citizens data in the EU. What would prevent Facebook copying that data to the US? Or have some American (potentially working for the NSA) remotely accessing EU data?

Under the US CLOUD Act, three letter agencies can compel Facebook to produce user data wherever in the world it is. When any other country has a law like that, they are obviously the bad guys.

Via a transparent and public legal process.

In China there is no:

1. Public legal process for data requests 2. Now that I think about it, there are no requests for data at all (they don't have to ask, it's just given) 3. Ability for any Chinese company to say no to gov requests

Surely you don't view these circumstances as the same?

Here is the page for the US CLOUD ACT: https://www.justice.gov/dag/cloudact

Where is the similar page detailing how the CCP balances civil rights with security?

Re: As TikTok grows, so does suspicion

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Post by meowtimemania » Sun, Jul 17, 2022, 9:53 PM UTC

trasz wrote: post #222

meowtimemania wrote: post #91

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It's ironic you even mention abortion, given that abortions were forced to maintain the one child policy until 2015, and then 3 child policy until 2021. Is not the government's absolute power to control family size the most blaring example of authoritarianism?

>given that abortions were forced to maintain the one child policy until [citation needed]. Various accounts I've seen claimed it was more like a financial fine; forced abortions sound like Zenz-type fabrication.

If you are given a choice between financial fine or abortion, and there's nothing you realistically can do to afford the fine, wouldn't you say the abortion is forced?

Re: As TikTok grows, so does suspicion

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Post by sumnole » Tue, Jul 19, 2022, 3:46 PM UTC

bluepizza wrote: post #537

sumnole wrote: post #407

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America has been to war with Japan, Canada and the UK - which supports the fact that allies can always turn.

> allies can always turn. But that's not what happened, is it? Enemies turned into allies. That's quite the opposite of what you said.

Obviously, the reverse is also true (enemies to allies as in my examples). Ultimately it's the opposite of what you said.