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Leaked Amazon memo warns the company is running out of people to hire

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USD is up 8% versus EUR YTD ($1 = €0.88 then, €0.95 now). US, unlike Europe, does not actually need Russian oil/gas. And yet, US inflation is above the world average ( https://www.barrons.com/articles/inflation-has-become-a-glob... >).

Both US and EU printed huge amounts of money during the last few years, and the swiss, it seems, didn't.

probably because they already have a pretty robust social system in place, so it can weather issues like covid and employment issues better

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We do it in the medical and legal field under the guise of “experience” and “career development”. Is it different because it’s blue collar hourly work and not used as a foundation for a lucrative career. I think it should stop in all places but we seem to disregard shitty work arrangements for the few prestigious and financially lucrative careers and cry wolf for those hourly souls. Why is that?

Are you saying it's not fair that people who get paid less get more sympathy?

I’m saying we focus on populations because of a common theme but some problems transcend those categorical boundaries.

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We do it in the medical and legal field under the guise of “experience” and “career development”. Is it different because it’s blue collar hourly work and not used as a foundation for a lucrative career. I think it should stop in all places but we seem to disregard shitty work arrangements for the few prestigious and financially lucrative careers and cry wolf for those hourly souls. Why is that?

...this seems to ignore the huge amount of scrutiny these kinds of practices are getting in the medical field.

Don’t see it in legal field or software engineering.

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I'm not saying that being unemployed is better than making an unlivable wage. I am saying both outcomes are unacceptable. And I am not advocating for any specific solution, just saying that the current system does not work. I don't believe in false dichotomies. Being unhappy with capitalism does not automatically make one a communist.

> both outcomes are unacceptable What is the alternative? You can't pay someone more than they earn in revenue and minimum wage laws create an artificial price floor that causes everyone who would otherwise earn between above zero and the minimum to instead make zero. The idea of a "living wage" is an worthless notion that assumes that the distribution of income by age and experience is not the one from the real worl…

> Being unhappy with capitalism is being in denial about the world having scarce resources.

Food and shelter are not scarce resources. In the United States, we have more empty homes than homeless people. Every day we throw away an obscene amount of food.

So again, I say any system that requires the existence of a class of people who cannot afford these things in order to function is morally untenable. Similar shitty arguments were made in defense of slavery 200 years ago.

Communism isn't the only possible answer. Welfare programs are a common solution. The way I see it though, welfare is just the taxpayer subsidizing unlivable wages. So why not cut out the tax middleman and make the employers pay livable wages to begin with? Either way, that money has to get moved from the top to the bottom.

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I upvoted this for contributing a valuable and insightful clarification about how those two statements relate, but the part where you attribute "tactics" and "bias" to the journalist has no direct evidence and reads like a political meme. You may be convinced of your interpretation, but it's also likely that the journalist isn't rigorous enough to notice the distinction themselves, didn't have access to perfectly com…

Totally fair on the implying bias strictly on the journalist (which may or may not be there). Regardless of the awareness/intent of the given journalist, I do hope that we can find leaders (whether people/orgs/software) that can help improve our information environment to improve shared sensemaking. In an ideal world, non-rigorous journalists, arbitrary deadlines, and corner cutting because of school pickups shouldn'…

> Totally fair on the implying bias strictly on the journalist (which may or may not be there).

But it's not.

You were correct to call out their bias and tactics, as journalists have written hit pieces on various companies in the past and have earned scrutiny over how they present data.

I don't feel like you should need to backpedal on your astute observation just because someone points out a bs excuse scenario like they might have kids to pick up from school.

It is literally a journalist's job to gather and present accurate data, hopefully without bias. I don't think it is too much to ask of them, no matter the circumstances.

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> Amazon founder and former CEO Jeff Bezos saw his warehouse workforce as necessary but replaceable, and feared that workers who remained at the company too long would turn complacent or, worse, disgruntled, according to reporting by the New York Times. Wow. Think about what this is really saying: Amazon adopts the explicit policy of not wanting their workers to stay on long enough to figure out that they are getting…

> Amazon adopts the explicit policy of not wanting their workers to stay on long enough to figure out that they are getting a bad deal.

Surely they stay on exactly long enough to figure that out. It is, after all, presumably why they leave.

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My guess is what you say here, and where the plan is AI/Robotics will take over. That in itself will be unprofitable for a while until it is very profitable and like Google with search, hard to displace.

You might be right but that isn't even what I'm saying here. Your description could apply to many sectors of the economy, most of which they have a some amount of presence in

Amazon is unique in that they are so big they saturate the job market. Most companies don’t. This sounds like a unique challenge.

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It seems unlikely to me that this analysis applies to amzn's retail division.

If you spend any time reading their retail forums [1], you'll see almost everyone lambasting Amazon constantly. Either disgruntled sellers who broke the rules and got terminated, or normal, hardworking mom-and-pop stores that were all but forced to sell on Amazon and consistently lose money due to amazon's ever-changing policies, poor support, and catering to large retailers. Large retailers get a direct line and qua…

Who would bother writing on these forums unless they have an axe to grind?
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