Sunsetting Atom

Then explain MariaDB?

https://www2.computerworld.com.au/article/457551/dead_databa...

>Dead database walking: MySQL's creator on why the future belongs to MariaDB

>MySQL's creator, Michael "Monty" Widenius, is scathing on database's future with Oracle

>It's fair to say that MySQL creator Michael "Monty" Widenius is not a fan of Oracle. When the company announced in April 2009 that it was purchasing Sun, Widenius saw a bleak future ahead for the (still) wildly popular open source database, which Sun had snapped up in 2008.

>The day the Sun purchase was announced, Widenius responded in the tried and true open source fashion — he forked MySQL, launching MariaDB, and took a swathe of MySQL developers with him.

>"Many of the original MySQL core developers, including me, didn't believe that Oracle would be a good owner of MySQL and we wanted to ensure that the MySQL code base would be free forever," Widenius explains.

>Some of the new code by Oracle is surprisingly good, but unfortunately the quality varies and a notable part needs to be rewritten before we can include it in MariaDB

>Widenius and a number of other MySQL developers started a company, Monty Program Ab "to provide a home both for MariaDB — the new MySQL — and for all MySQL core developers".

>"Monty Program Ab is owned by the employees and uses the 'hacking business model' as a way to drive the company," Widenius says.

>Although MySQL is still widely used — Db-engines.com ranks it as the third most popular RDBMS after Oracle and Microsoft SQL Server, compared to MariaDB coming in at #35 — Widenius still believes the database has a bleak future under Oracle's stewardship.

>Oracle's treatment of MySQL and its community since its purchase of Sun has proved Widenius' original fears correct, the developer says. Not mincing words, Widenius says that Oracle has made it clear "that they have no love for open source, working with the community, or MySQL in general".

>Widenius cites as examples of Oracle's disregard for open source principles the September 2011 announcement of commercial extensions to MySQL, the bugs database not being public any more, and a lack of test cases for new code in MySQL 5.5 and 5.6.

>Widenius is also scathing of the quality of Oracle's MySQL development efforts. "Some of the new code by Oracle is surprisingly good, but unfortunately the quality varies and a notable part needs to be rewritten before we can include it in MariaDB," he says.

>He also says that security issues are not addressed quickly enough.

>"Instead of fixing bugs, Oracle is removing features," Widenius says.

>"The MySQL documentation was never made open source, even [though] it was promised in the MySQL conference in April 2009," he adds.

>"Flagship features promised for MySQL 6.0 have never been released, even if they were fully developed and ready to be released," he says, referring to online backup for all storage engines and foreign keys for all storage engines.

>"Most of the original MySQL developers have left Oracle. Without people that can understand and explain the code it's almost impossible for Oracle to develop MySQL further even if they wanted to."

>As further evidence of disdain for MySQL users, Widenius cites what he describes as "sharp" increases in licence and support fees, a lack of an open roadmap and no way for the community to participate in the database's development.

>"Why is the price for a MySQL OEM license higher than for Oracle Express?" Widenius asks.

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Like when they sunset the closed-source .net framework and created the open source .net core?

Or when they sunset the closed-source PowerShell and created the open-source PowerShell Core?

Like those?

In my experience, it works up to the point where it installs the extensions, and then it does a bunch of processing and still can't figure out how to run the project or what the code means anyway. Plus I now have a slew of new extensions installed, and I'm not sure which are new looking in my list of extensions.

IntelliJ has a pretty damn good track record for me, when I import a project it indexes for a minute or so, then it automatically knows the entrypoint to run the project, and has a fantastic understanding of all my code. Cmd+click any symbol and it can show me definitions, usages, implementations, etc. I can hit shift+F6 to rename a symbol, and it hits every usage perfectly (as opposed to every time I've tried to use VS Code to rename something, and it just causes me more problems than if I were to do it manually). I haven't found any other text editor or IDE that works as seamlessly in this regard, and it's a dealbreaker for my productivity.

What you're trying to say is "I don't like the way it's run". Okay, fine. That doesn't make it "not open source".

I have projects where I don't accept patches. "It works for me" and I just don't feel like reviewing patches. Is that not "open source" in spite of being MIT licenced?

"I can do with the code what I want" is the entire and only point of Open Source and Free Software, something Stallman and many others have been pretty clear about over the years.

"Mission-critical tools should be hyper-responsive." Did not seem to be important with the worlds slowest dev-tool ever, Atom. ;)

"Real-time collaboration produces better software." At design level, ok. Programming is in most cases not a co-op operation. If it is, then you are probably creating solutions while writing code which is the best guarantee for bad solutions.

“Conversations should happen close to code.” Agree to some degree, this is a big flaw with GIT. It is also a flaw with many programming langs and tools. Even if I use collaboration features in VS and VSC many langs are simply not designed for presenting code to people not highly familiar with the specific code base. So, an editor may not solve the problem here.

“Your editor should disappear.” I mainly code in VS and what I can do in VS in 10 mins takes me a couple of hours in VSC. A tool should aim to be the default of a problem. The amount of time I have seen wasted over the years with people trying to master VIM or git from a prompt is just ridiculous.