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Re: Ask HN: What’s a good laptop for software development at around $2k?

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These threads always surprise me with the number of people who buy new thinkpads. Nothing wrong with them I'm sure (well, maybe a few things wrong with them), I just never even considered it as an option. I recently picked up an old 2005-ish (edit: 2011 actually) x220 for a few hundred quid off ebay which seems to be running nicely. Specs aren't anything to shout about but it works fine for what it is. Durability wis…

Love me some plastic frame laptops

Re: Ask HN: What’s a good laptop for software development at around $2k?

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Lenovo has some pretty good sales on thinkpad X1s (at least they do in Canada - didn't check the US site). But, if you're in Canada, I just bought this: https://www.newegg.ca/p/N82E16834233446?Description=gigabyte... It's got a gorgeous 4K OLED screen, a quite decent CPU and GPU, and it's currently $350 off + a $300 mail in rebate (there was an additional $350 off over the easter weekend, too). The track pad is not m…

Likewise I was going to get an X1 after owning several higher-end Thinkpad and Macbook models over the years.

Instead I went with a Gigabyte Aero 15 OLED, 11th gen i7, 32gb ram, RTX 3070 etc. and after using the trackpad and keyboard daily it's an excellent daily driver that'll power through anything I can throw at it.

My only qualm is I can't be bothered to get the fingerprint reader working properly in Linux and finding a slim but protective case that still fits in my rucksack has been a pain.

Re: Ask HN: What’s a good laptop for software development at around $2k?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's part guilt. Doubting your expensive purchase, thus reinforcing it with this behavior. Apt comparison with religion, especially with recent converts. That's not to say all Apple products are bad.

> Doubting your expensive purchase Except, there is not a single Windows/Intel based laptop that can offer the same performance as say, for example, an M1 Macbook air ($750). There really is no comparison and there is nothing that comes close on the Windows side at that price point. If there is, please link me because I would love to know. M1 has made Macbooks not only superior in performance, but also more economica…

M1 Macbook air comes with 8gb soldered memory. In the UK that's 899gbp.

If you want 16gb memory you're paying at least 1700gbp.

If you want 32gb, it's 2999gbp.

Most Windows laptops have upgradable memory and you can buy yourself 32gb ram for ~100gbp.

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Asus TUF Dash Gaming 15 user here: I cannot recommend it enough. - Intel i7 H series processor (best mobile Intel chips) - Upgradeable RAM (currently at 24GB) - Intel Wifi 6 - Nvidia RTX 3060 - FullHD Screen with 144Hz - Comfortable keyboard with backlight - Two M.2 slots, laptop came with 500GB but added an extra 2TB. - Good connecticity: HDMI, Ethernet, 3 full-size USBA 3.1 ports, 1 Thunderbolt port. - Laptop runs…

Is it running Linux? What OS? What is your experience with it?

Re: Ask HN: What’s a good laptop for software development at around $2k?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The OS and first-party software are at least 50% of the reason I buy Mac hardware, personally. Safari (+20% battery life), Notes (missing a couple features I'd like, but has also never crashed or glitched on me in a decade of use, so...), Pages, Numbers, Keynote, Digital Color Meter, Preview (I love Preview), the excellent and remarkably low-latency Terminal, Mail, et c. Take those away and I'd just go back to buying…

Safari annoys the heck out of me but I use it for the battery life, I would say it's adequate (except when stuff only works on Chrome, but not really safaris fault as far as I know). I dropped terminal instantly for kitty. Preview is the PDF viewer right? Will definitely say that thing is amazing. First thing I did when I got my M1 though is partition the drive and dual boot asahi though.

> Safari annoys the heck out of me but I use it for the battery life

I wish it had more and better extensions, but the battery life savings and general lighter feel/effect on overall system responsiveness is so large that I put up with that unless I really have to have better dev tools or something. All my normal browsing happens in Safari. Took me like 3 years to convert after starting to use Macs, as I initially dismissed it, but damn, it's way lighter than FF or Chrome.

> Preview is the PDF viewer right?

It's a lots-of-things viewer, but its PDF support is so good that it made me go from hating when something was in a PDF, which had been the state of things with every PDF viewer I'd ever used since first encountering the format some time in the 90s, to liking PDFs. It's lightweight (like most of Apple's tools, I can just leave it in the background and forget it's there), crashes are extremely rare (maybe one or two in a decade or more of use?), and it supports all kinds of nice-to-have stuff like compiling a PDF from pages of other PDFs, removing or re-ordering pages, signing, light image editing and markup capabilities, et c.

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There was a recent discussion on the StarBook: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31034024 - in the comments I mention a few other laptops I've been looking at that may be of interest as well as my own review/experience w/ a laptop w/ the same chassis as the KDE Slimbook 15/Tuxedo Pulse 15.

Tuxedo pulse15 is great. Only issue I have so far is that I have a crumb stuck under the shift key and haven't figured out how to get it out without damaging the key. It's a very flat keyboard which may not be for everyone.

If the compressed air suggestion doesn't work, you could also try 90%+ isopropyl alcohol which might work to dissolve any bits and is electronics/keyboard safe. Otherwise, drop a line to Tuxedo support, I've seen XMG/Tuxedo guys be very active on their forums/subreddits, so I think you have a good chance of getting a useful response from them.

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“Battery life is important to me” You’ll only find that with a MacBook. All other laptops have terrible battery life. But since you don’t want a MacBook… looks like your shit out of luck.

Sorry, but no. That is entirely false. I get 10h out of a Lenovo X1C, and Lenovo is not special. Good battery life is not yet a given in every laptop, but easy enough to find with a bit of care when choosing the laptop.

M1 MacBooks have better performance than the top tier X1C, and 2x the battery life.

Seems kind of weird paying for something that is just worse.

Re: Ask HN: What’s a good laptop for software development at around $2k?

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serious question: what is the practical difference between MacOS and Linux? Do you have a habit of modifying your wifi drivers and recompiling the source? I am big on open source but have never felt my life was improved chasing dependencies vs just brew install ... I have never had a satisfactory battery + sleep/standby experience on a linux machine, vs a Mac I can leave unplugged for weeks and it wakes back up where…

Containers are a constant headache on MacOS. The likes of Lima have greatly improved the situation, but there are still several issues (network reliability and performance are significant issues). > Do you have a habit of modifying your wifi drivers and recompiling the source? Not even once. But thank god for the people who do put in the effort to code support for shitty walled gardens[1]. This age old strawman argum…

+1 agree with your points. Although I wasn't sure about things on mac breaking every other day. I agree with your sentiment on Brew - it sucks incredibly hard compared to any other package managers from any Linux distro lol. Currently trying out Windows + WSL to decide between full-on Linux or Windows

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I've been running Ubuntu on an LG Gram 17. Huge screen (true 17"), 18 hour battery and weighs Les than 4 lbs. It also has a metal chassis. Only device that doesn't work is the fingerprint reader.

Another very happy LG Gram / Linux user here. Fingerprint reader seems to work for me, running Ubuntu 22.04.

so... I upgraded to 22.04... and the reader now works.

Re: Ask HN: What’s a good laptop for software development at around $2k?

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Razer's a bit overpriced (a la Mac) but I really like the build quality and the specs are typically great. My current Razer Blade Stealth was about $2000 and has worked flawlessly for about a year now (and my previous RBS worked flawlessly for about 3 years before I cracked the screen by stepping on it in the night).

Everything works OOTB on Linux. Battery life is around 9 hours or 5-6 with my full stack running and everything always feels snappy (I use 16 workspaces, so I typically have a TON open). Keyboard feels amazing, the chassis is probably the sturdiest one I've ever had (might be metal but doesn't get hot), and I prefer the touchpad over the mac one, which everyone seems to hold as a gold standard for some reason.

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