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Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by sanderjd »

danschumann wrote: post #508
sanderjd wrote: post #400

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Interesting! I don't really relate to those definitions - furious and jealous don't seem similar to me, nor do infuriated and annoyed seem particularly similar - but thanks for the explanation.

Most of the time people say they're curious on the internet, they're actually feeling dismissive, but just need more ammo to be able to dismiss the person. Which makes it skepticism, not curiosity.

I was both curious and skeptical about this. I appreciated the explanation which successfully sated my curiosity, though I remain skeptical. But I also have a new interesting thing to consider, to compare and contrast my thinking against. Moving forward I'll be wondering whether any fury I feel is more akin to jealousy or annoyance and that will be a new and interesting lens to look at things through.

I really was curious! But that isn't mutually exclusive with skepticism.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by peoplefromibiza »

colechristensen wrote: post #284
koheripbal wrote: post #234

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The issue with Dorsey is that he acknowledges how toxic Twitter is, but has no idea how to fix it nor did he seem ready to do so, and this made investors very nervous. See his recent interview on CNN : https://www.facebook.com/cnn/videos/2100868666791589/

I don't think this is ... necessarily the wrong thing. Acknowledging that it is a difficult problem and you don't know how to solve it might be better than thinking you know how to solve it and doing something worse. People are also quick to blame platforms without acknowledging that a lot of people are awful, the venue in which they practice their awfulness isn't necessarily at fault but it's easier to blame a thing…

all of this is true.

but those people had no such platform before, maybe not thinking about the consequences because "growth" wasn't a great idea after all.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by viro »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #321
busterarm wrote: post #290

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Social media can be fixed by legislating it out of existence. It doesn't even need a watchdog agency like the environment does.

Remove Section 230 protections for profit driven social networks, carve out exemptions for public goods and other sites operated without a profit intent (Wikipedia, the Internet Archive, Hacker News, etc) and the problem solves itself (the cost to police/moderate the platform rises above a point where the revenue returned is no longer sufficient to make the endeavor worthwhile). Social media is toxic due to the socia…

That would just destroy all user generated content on the internet....

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by yhoneycomb »

The irony in the fact that his resignation tweet was an image of text, designed to get around the character limit, was not lost on me.

You want Twitter to be the most transparent company? Maybe start by making it accessible to the visually impaired by not posting images of text.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by splitstud »

soheil wrote: post #524
afavour wrote: post #7

I have no particular beef with Dorsey but I think this would make sense. He's been CEO of both Square and Twitter for years now and no matter what time you wake up in the morning or however many specials diets you undertake you're not going to be able to give the focus a solo CEO is. I think the bigger issue is who gets to replace him: will it be someone with smart ideas or someone to serve as a puppet of activist in…

Honestly I’m ok with a hedge fund backed Twitter. Look what it has become with Dorsey at the helm. It was a cute platform to induce change in backward countries 10 years ago, but now it’s a cesspool of every ideologue imaginable. The more sensational and toxic someone is the more successful they become on Twitter, generally speaking. If the goal was to make money primarily I don’t see how brands would put up with tha…

A platform to induce change was the highpoint?

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by syshum »

afavour wrote: post #308
syshum wrote: post #244

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The problem here is that "toxic" is subjective, what I find toxic and disagreeable may not be the same thing you find toxic and disagreeable. Take for example hot button issue of Gun ownership, I believe it an essential right and extension of self defense, others view any talk about guns as toxic that should be banned. Who's worldview should win? Mine, your's, Twitters? IMO platforms like twitter should not be making…

> others view any talk about guns as toxic that should be banned. Do they? Are you sure? I’ve certainly seen many calls for the glorification of violence to be limited, stuff like that. But banning actual discussion of guns? I’d be interested to see examples of people advocating for that. In any case, Twitter can simply ignore people asking for that because it isn’t a reasonable request. You can have sensible, level…

>>I’ve certainly seen many calls for the glorification of violence to be limited

Guns was probably a bad choice for Twitter, would have been better for YT as YT has recently cracked down hard on firearms content.

However even on twitter the "the glorification of violence" is very subjective. For example people celebrating the jury verdict in the Rittenhouse trial, who many believe was an attack on the very right to self defense, has been reported by many as "glorification of violence"

Even more recently, I have seen attempts to censor conversation, and video around the shooting / death of Chad Read.

Then you going to have a conservation around Self defense use of guns it will include violence, there is no way around that, if you are going to censor violence then by necessity you have to sensor guns or relegate it to a discussion about hunting only.

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Post by ragebol »

63 wrote: post #620
ChuckMcM wrote: post #259

It will be interesting to see how Twitter changes as a result. Twitter with selective following and setting your timeline to 'time order' creates a pretty good environment for me. It feels like the equivalent of living in only a few chosen 'subreddits' rather than getting the full frontal reddit experience.

The difference for me has always beem that Twitter is organized by person rather than by topic. In some ways that's good if I'm following someone because I care about them personally, but usually I follow people because I'm interested in a particular aspect of their work like art or announcements. In those cases, I don't want to hear about their political opinions or what their child did that week. I know you can fol…

I mostly ignore the stuff not about the topic I followed a person for, but it does help me to keep my world view wider.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by [deleted] »

tonguez wrote: post #625
unethical_ban wrote: post #468

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It's their tool, so they get to build it to their liking, until law is created requiring them to do otherwise. The question in the meantime is, "what is moral?" and "do we as an entity (twitter) enforce our morality at all, and to what extent?" For example, millions of people believe the lie , the fabrication that the 2020 presidential election result was fraudulent. If there are organizations on your platform amplif…

There are better ways to win the hearts and minds of the population than authoritarian control of what people see, hear and say. No one likes to be controlled by someone else. Censoring discussion of the issue is only going to make more people assume the election was in fact "fraudulent". Similarly Sam Harris has said in a podcast how laws against Holocaust denial do more to create more Holocaust deniers than they he…

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Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by snarkypixel »

There's zero explanation in the email for why he resigned. He's re-iterating the point that the company is fine moving forward with the rest of the board, the new CEO and the existing team, but no actual reason as to why he left.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Post by unethical_ban »

native_samples wrote: post #623
unethical_ban wrote: post #468

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It's their tool, so they get to build it to their liking, until law is created requiring them to do otherwise. The question in the meantime is, "what is moral?" and "do we as an entity (twitter) enforce our morality at all, and to what extent?" For example, millions of people believe the lie , the fabrication that the 2020 presidential election result was fraudulent. If there are organizations on your platform amplif…

The problem is of course, he won't ever do that consistently. Instead he will simply decide that people he doesn't personally like a "lying" and "spreading misinformation", whilst people who are powerful or who he does like, never do. Consider that if Twitter censored everyone who believed a lie or fabrication, every public health person who claimed masks didn't work and then that they did, would all lose their Twitt…

You have some false equivalences in your argument.
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