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Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by soheil »

mFixman wrote: post #464
mizzack wrote: post #92

Wow looks like Apple has abandoned every bad decision on the MBP for the past 5 years in one swoop. No touchbar, increased key travel, added back hdmi/sd/headphone/power jacks. Plus bumped up RAM limit, M1, new displays, 120Hz... Wow.

Damn, I liked the touchbar :-( I think that Apple's biggest mistake is not making it more obvious that the bar is editable in all programs. It becomes pretty useful when you can keep only the functions that you use the most.

Touchbar was awful. Making it editable in all programs was a nice gimmick, but in the end who wants to look down on their keyboard to see which key they need to press next? There is also no mechanical feedback breaking the symmetry between the touchbar keys and any other key.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by thehappypm »

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #300

And just like that, the outrage about the photo scanning malware Apple installed on their iPhone is forgotten. "The screeching voices of the minority" indeed.

First of all, they never "installed" anything, it was a future feature. Second, they delayed it (possibly indefinitely) after the huge pushback.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by junon »

diebeforei485 wrote: post #645
ksec wrote: post #118

HDMI, SD Card, and MagSafe. Things people on the internet inclusive but not limited to HN said they will never come back because the future is USB-C. Now I just want to know if the new keyboard has more key travel distance back to the like of MacBook Pro 2015. In case anyone wants to know the thickness difference. MacBook Pro 13" 2015 - 1.8 cm MacBook Pro 13" 2016 - 1.49 / 1.55 cm MacBook Pro 14" / 16" 2021 - 1.55 /…

Agree- I have been largely disappointed by USB-C. It's been okay as a smaller USB-A replacement for flash drives and mice, but in general the lesson of USB-C is: just because it fits, doesn't mean it works. My personal favorite annoyance is how chargers and cables are advertised with the wattage they support, but it's really the voltage and current that matters. If you have a device that wants 20W as 9V/2.22A , your…

> chargers and cables are advertised with the wattage they support, but it's really the voltage and current that matters.

Wattage is what you get when you multiply amps and volts. You just said the equivalent of "It's not about the ice cream, but about the ice and the cream".

Also, it arguably does have everything to do with volts - if you put the too much voltage into a device, most likely you're going to damage the device, its surroundings, or yourself (i.e. in a house fire).

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Post by IshKebab »

mFixman wrote: post #464
mizzack wrote: post #92

Wow looks like Apple has abandoned every bad decision on the MBP for the past 5 years in one swoop. No touchbar, increased key travel, added back hdmi/sd/headphone/power jacks. Plus bumped up RAM limit, M1, new displays, 120Hz... Wow.

Damn, I liked the touchbar :-( I think that Apple's biggest mistake is not making it more obvious that the bar is editable in all programs. It becomes pretty useful when you can keep only the functions that you use the most.

Ha is this going to be like Google's blob emojis where everyone hated them when they were in use and as soon as they finally removed them loads of blob-lovers came out of the woodwork...

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Post by ErneX »

ArlenBales wrote: post #572
ksec wrote: post #118

HDMI, SD Card, and MagSafe. Things people on the internet inclusive but not limited to HN said they will never come back because the future is USB-C. Now I just want to know if the new keyboard has more key travel distance back to the like of MacBook Pro 2015. In case anyone wants to know the thickness difference. MacBook Pro 13" 2015 - 1.8 cm MacBook Pro 13" 2016 - 1.49 / 1.55 cm MacBook Pro 14" / 16" 2021 - 1.55 /…

Great specs, but since I already have an 2020 M1 MacBook Pro, I'll hold off for a few more years. I'm hoping by then Apple finally has an OLED (or equivalent) screen for their MacBooks.

That’d be micro led, still some years for that.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by packetlost »

smoldesu wrote: post #603
ChuckMcM wrote: post #479

Priced out the one I would buy and it is $4300. Seems the value isn't quite there. Hard to say though without playing with it for a while. So clearly I need to go back to work for some tech company that will buy one for me :-). It is more interesting to me to reflect on the comments from about 5 years ago that "ARM will never be in laptops, its a 'phone' processor." That statement was both true and ignored the realit…

I expect to be surrounded by pitchforks and torches for saying this, but I genuinely believe that Linux is the true winner of today's presentation. The last few months have been watershed times for both Apple and Microsoft. Starting with Apple, their developer relations are starting to crumble in a major way. Not only have developers stood up against their highway robbery, but other companies like Microsoft have one-…

I use Linux daily. "Just works" is a stretch as soon as you throw any GUI + desktop environment into the equation. Even more hairy if you add an nvidia GPU in.

The average consumer is more likely to switch to ChromeOS (which I guess is Linux underneath, for now) than to any Linux distro.

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Post by mixmastamyk »

bingohbangoh wrote: post #179

what's the general need for microSD? My XPS-13 has one but I've never understood why its such a big deal. I almost never use it.

Wish SD cards were better supported by stereo equipment. Recently realized that USB flash drives are kinda clumsy for that.

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Post by nyadesu »

Alex3917 wrote: post #361
valine wrote: post #46

Epic update. Crazy fast chips, 120hz, mini LED, more ports, 64 gigs of ram. It's literally everything you could want in a new MacBook Pro.

> It's literally everything you could want in a new MacBook Pro. If it doesn't run VirtualBox then I can't use it to write code, so why does it even matter if it's faster?

You can always use docker

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Post by spuz »

petercooper wrote: post #473

I don't plan to go back to MagSafe. I have multiport USB-C chargers all round my house and don't really want to buy lots of cables or proprietary chargers to add to the mix. I'm sticking with USB-C even if it's slower. SD cards I don't use. And HDMI I rarely use so dongles are fine, but it's nice to have I guess!

If I chose to buy the 14" model which comes with a 96W USB-C power adapter, does anyone who has experience of Apple products know if I could still use my existing 65W usb charger to power or charge the MacBook?

My Dell XPS 15 does allow me to charge it with a 65W USB-C charger which is nice when I don't want to lug around the beefy 130W power adapter but I do have to be careful not to stress the CPU too much or it will start draining the battery. I wonder whether MacBooks have a similar "graceful fallback".

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