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Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by blueyes »

BEEdwards wrote: post #579

Same thing happened to Howard Stern when he moved to XM (or Sirrus, which ever one won that war I have no idea what's going on in the satellite radio space), moving from an open broadcast to a pay to listen will always cut you off from all but your most devoted fans and prevent a lot of organic discovery.

I was gonna say the same thing. It's a gilded ghetto. He's a lot richer but a lot less people know or care what he says. Rogan's going the same way. And I have to wonder whether that's really what guys like that, who built their lives around gaining fame, actually want.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by sellyme »

ub99 wrote: post #401
dntrkv wrote: post #341

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's only the ads that the podcasters put in themselves. They are not the Spotify ads.

This makes me wonder… would Spotify allow ads in music? Can I upload a music track that has an ad in the middle? Hmm…

Yes.

See also: about half of the rap tracks on the platform, where every third line is product placement.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by kadoban »

adventured wrote: post #605
manigandham wrote: post #525

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I said him and his friends lean left too, so what else makes it a gateway? These claims are always vague and unfounded.

It's pretty straight-forward. The left can't stand Rogan because he allows the non-left (not just the alt-right; the non-left) to have a platform. They don't actually care what the material is, what the issue is, they can't tolerate anything that isn't their own bubble, their own world views. The left controls ~95% of all media and it still isn't enough. Any platform that gives a voice to anything other than their ow…

> The left controls ~95% of all media and it still isn't enough

The biggest social media site is Facebook. Facebook is very right leaning.

The biggest cable news/punditry channel is Fox. Fox is _very_ right leaning.

The rest of cable news is mostly centrist, certainly not left. MSNBC is vaguely left, that's about it.

Radio is dominated by right-wing blowhards.

Where is my 95% exactly?

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by samstave »

arodgers_la wrote: post #188

Comedian Bill Burr said it best: "I'm not gonna sit here with no medical degree, listening to you with no medical degree, with an American flag behind you smoking a cigar acting like we know what's up better than the CDC." [0] That quote is Joe Rogan's shtick in a nutshell. [0] https://youtube.com/watch?v=tSKVXl-WnrA&t=5m20s

I don't agree with you guys at all. I like Joe a lot - but I do not always agree with him, nor his guests - but here is why he is one of the best interviewers I have witnessed:

He doesnt talk over his guests - he never pontificates to them, and lets them have their piece...

Additionally - he is actually really well read, and has a great memory and can recall how things he had read in the past relate to the conversations at hand.

You put joe rogan up against literally any television "interviewer" in the history of television, and you will see they are all hacks. Soundbyte driven hacks.

Ill take joe over ANYONE on television today.

Also - there are far too many podcasts, and its great to have very interesting people on his show - where they talk openly about anything for 3 hours.

as opposed to a 1 minute sound byte on complex world affairs where reporters are interviewing reporters about what some other reporter said and then claiming that "experts" "officials" and "sources close to the matter" say... and then every single person on their cast is "Senior correspondent this or that" - with zero creds shown as to why they are senior...

News is FAKE.

At least the interviews on JRE are uncut, there is only ONE other staff member in the room whos only job is to switch cams and look up something if either the guest or joe have doubts about what they are saying.

I find it funny how people can bitch about someone if there is something they dont agree with, as if one must have a 100% ideological map to anything they watch/see/listen to or else its all 100% fake.

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Post by stevespang »

NortySpock wrote: post #626
david38 wrote: post #591

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He absolutely does. That paycheck won’t stay that big of his popularity craters.

I got the impression it was a lump sum payout, or at least came with golden handcuffs that were purely in terms of "exclusivity and X-podcasts-per-week for X weeks", rather than subscriber count.

If he got 9 figures lump sum check he could give a crap if his show flops . . .

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by samstave »

altacc wrote: post #159

Hearing "Exclusively on Spotify" on any podcast ad is a sure-fire way to make sure I never listen to an episode. One of the great features of podcasts is the flexibility in listening platform and I'd really rather not switch to Spotify's substandard user experience.

I agree their UI/UX is utter fucking garbage.

I wish YT-DL worked with their audio though...

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by [deleted] »

jimt1234 wrote: post #274
indy wrote: post #81

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Some episodes are no longer available, as if Spotify wants everyone to forget that they even exist. Episodes featuring Milo Yiannopoulos, Alex Jones etc. In other words, guests that offend the progressive attitudes of Silicon Valley

Rejecting people that promote the "Sandy Hook was fake!" conspiracy theory and even harassing the parents of murdered children isn't a way to avoid offending the "progressive attitudes of Silicon Valley". It's just common decency. ... Can we at least set the bar at that level -- that we _don't_ harass the parents of murdered children for clicks?

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Post by sellyme »

altacc wrote: post #159

Hearing "Exclusively on Spotify" on any podcast ad is a sure-fire way to make sure I never listen to an episode. One of the great features of podcasts is the flexibility in listening platform and I'd really rather not switch to Spotify's substandard user experience.

Yep. Exclusivity deals are a great way to push me, someone who would ordinarily happy pay for content, into piracy.

I already have software that can play MP3s. I like it. Stop trying to make me use someone else's.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by ffggvv »

kevwil wrote: post #500

Good. Sorry, Joe, but that was a bad move. Let me know when you start podcasting again. The turf war over the commercialization of podcasting reminds me of the Internet - designed to be free and open, destined to be walled off from free use and exploited to death.

eh, i’d rather have the $100m and smaller audience if i was him..
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