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1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Post by dkonofalski »

sleepybrett wrote: post #543
dkonofalski wrote: post #461

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They did. They offered standalone licenses and subscriptions for an entire version's lifecycle and 97% (or something crazy high like that) of the people who downloaded went for the subscription. I've been a standalone user since v3 and finally upgraded after realizing that buying a license for Windows, Mac, and Linux would cost me more over 3 years than just paying the subscription.

Let me tell you, as someone who used 1password since 3.x .. when I went to buy 7.x standalone it took me over an hour to find the page that let me buy standalone over three sessions. Why did 97% buy the subscription? Because they hid the other version in a locked filing cabinet in a basement with a broken staircase.

No, they didn't. Subscriptions happened when version 6 came out and that's the time period they're referring to when they're talking about those stats. There was literally 2 giant boxes of equal size asking if you wanted to use an account or a standalone vault. 97% of people chose the subscription.

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Post by dkonofalski »

kup0 wrote: post #489
dkonofalski wrote: post #446

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. When the subscription service came out, they very clearly offered both options side by side and the boxes were the exact same size, had the exact same button to proceed, and the same coloring. You were given a choice. Starting with 1Password 7's beta, they "hid" the standalone option on the site and then removed it completely and only allowed for purchasing standalone versions through the app itself but t…

Maybe it was a timing thing, but I strictly remember it being different than how you describe here The only way I even know a standalone option existed at the time that I moved to 1PW was because of reviews/comments on other sites that then led me to support pages that said "oh yeah, if you still want that version, smirk smirk, then use this special link"

There are screenshots and an archive on archive.org that shows it's not different to how I'm describing it.

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Post by mst »

stereoradonc wrote: post #441
mst wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plus they have a 'pay $99 once, get $150 in credit' option which makes it work out even cheaper if you're happy to do that.

Can you share the link? I haven't seen it.

That was announced as part of the post that we're discussing.

Not sure where the signup link is, sorry.

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Post by fortuna86 »

js2 wrote: post #415

For folks looking for a pay-for-it-once app with Mac, iOS, Android and Windows clients, that can sync via Dropbox or Webdav: https://www.passwordwallet.com/ I've been using this for probably a decade now. The UI is ugly as sin, but it works well. I use the Apple Keychain for almost everything, but for my critical passwords, I have copies in PasswordWallet. PasswordWallet has one feature on macOS that I've not seen in…

> For folks looking for a pay-for-it-once app

That's what the folks at 1P told us all too..

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Post by e_proxus »

scbrg wrote: post #587
e_proxus wrote: post #569

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me it’s more about trust. I’d rather trust a company with decades of experience this area than a bunch of random developers that published different unvetted apps on various app stores. And technically, Syncthing doesn’t really seem viable on mobile last time I looked (and also has the problem of 3rd party apps instead of official ones).

How different we think. I'd much rather put my trust in select people , such as Jason Donenfeld (creator of pass, Wireguard &c) with impeccable track records, than random companies that are always one quick change of management away from selling all your data off to the highest bidder.

I was rather alluring to the different mobile apps which all seems to often be developed by various unknown developers (some closed source) instead of the core developers of the main project.

I too would trust the core of e.g. Syncthing or pass.

Making it all work on mobile is a completely different story though. I myself can’t do without mobile access to my passwords.

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Post by fortuna86 »

ashton314 wrote: post #532
sleepybrett wrote: post #530

fuck these guys. seriously. I've been using this product since 3.x. I chose it because I could use a wide variety of syncing solutions. It did what it said on the tin. Gave me a place to store my passwords that was secure. I was a happy user buying upgrades whenever they came out until 7.x where it took me over an hour to figure out how to buy the non-subscription/cloud version and instead find the link for the stand…

I hear good things about Bitwarden. https://bitwarden.com/

I spent an hour setting it up, the export worked well from 1P but you get to the very end to find out that "features" like a functioning F2A code generator or image storage are premium features that require, guess what, a subscription.

Damn it. It's only $10 a year but i'd rather buy it outright the way 1P allowed me to in the past.

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Post by fortuna86 »

jakemauer wrote: post #564
farmerstan wrote: post #246

I have the last non-subscription version on my Mac, PC and phone. They sync through Dropbox. The chrome extensions stopped working a few years ago so I got into the habit of just manually searching, cutting and pasting my passwords, and saving new ones. I don’t even think about it and it’s very easy. Paying $3/month to have it automatically populate the user name and password fields isn’t worth it for me, especially…

The main 1password extension for chrome stopped working with the standalone app, but the original extension is here under a different name: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/1password-extensio... I use it dozens of times a day and it works great. It's not as nice as the modern one that works with the subscription/hosted service but it'll certainly be better than what you're currently doing to muddle through.

They cut off Brave support but it still works in Chrome on Macs. Just a matter of time before all browser support is gone.

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Post by fortuna86 »

dschuetz wrote: post #119

Oooh, I see, my passwords are far more securely secured in The Cloud then? How do they plan to stay in business? "We have your passwords now! You would not want to lose them unless you agree to our new pricing policy now, would you?"

"Our prices have gone up, you don't want to lose access, do you?"

Re: 1Password 8 will be subscription only and won’t support local vaults

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Post by greyhair »

nacho_weekend wrote: post #268
prepend wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> $4.99/month for 5 people is affordable. I’m glad you find it affordable but these nickle and dime things add up. Especially when the product fits into $0 software so $4.99 is infinitely higher than $0. I feel like these small, “affordable,” services are just whittling away the Unix philosophy of do one small thing well. Layering on unnecessary crap just to charge a fee eventually comes home to roost. Also, password…

Personally, the added foolproof security and ease of sharing with non-tech savvy family makes that cost more than worth it for me personally.

Bingo!
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