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Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Again, Microsoft seems to be genuinely incapable of understandng why anyone could havev ever liked the Windows already available. As if that was some crazy unthinkable impossibility. Perhaps at some point between 60 and 90% market share you should stop trying too hard to be like the others and consider the possibility that not everything you've done is wrong?

Judging by their own line of tablet computers, it seems like they genuinely don't understand why anyone in would want a desktop. Which is sad, because Windows 10 is not a nice tablet UI

I use my Win 10 entertainment 2 in 1 laptop in desktop mode exclusively. I’d argue Windows 10 has the best tablet interface for a desktop. For one, it does not attempt to dumb down the interface, but makes subtle adjustments that make it easier to use on a tablet, e.g. increase in context menu height. It even asks you nicely whether to switch into tablet mode when you flip the display.

Makes iPad/Android look like a toy.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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> * A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup I refuse. There better be easily accessible versions without this requirement.

I'm not a Windows person but recently had to go through the setup process on my parents' newly purchased desktop machine. As far as I could tell, creating a user account just locally was not possible, you had to have an online account, hooked up with a valid email address. Given that most free email providers require you to provide your phone number (I don't own a phone), I had to do some digging--- all just to creat…

Similar experience here. Upon first boot, (i.e. during setup of windows) MS insists upon a microsoft account.

Typically, you're not in a position to google around for how to not have that. After all, you're in an OS setup screen, without a browser.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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- A new widgets fly out for weather, news, etc. (appears this will require you login with a Microsoft Account) Sounds daft and pointless to me. Are they mistaking their software for Apple or Android? Is Linux a usable alternative? IMHO, Windows 7 is my favorite OS, also XP, I don't love Windows 10 but Windows 11 sounds even less exciting, maybe MS should make some kind of "special edition" Windows XP that can support…

I don't get it either. I've never met anyone who liked any of the dynamic content provided by MS pretending that Windows is media platform. I think these are features the MS execs want, not users. > Is Linux a usable alternative? Who knows. Look at Ubuntu and some of the other distros that try to push the app store model, connected accounts, etc.. These people are building the software they want, not the software I w…

The only thing that is limiting on Linux is software availability. As far as an operating system goes, it is more than good enough.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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I've been using Linux Mint for years now and really enjoy it. It looks good, works with most things out of the box and I've had minimal issues with it. It's a bloated distro since it tries to cater to most set ups and ships with drivers, etc that you might not need which will annoy the purists but for me the compatibility and things just working is more valuable. I only use it on a desktop PC so YMMV. These days I on…

On Mint, automatic updates started failing for me recently with an obscure error because the /boot partition had too many old kernels. I doubt my parents could have figured out that one.

I'm not suggesting it's a good fit for everyone or non-techies but I do think it would work well for the average HN reader

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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So to summerize what they have announced (so far) - * A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? * A new start menu design * Windows have rounded corners * Some built in apps such as the Xbox app and Microsoft Store have been redesigned (Xbox Game Pass and xCloud built into the Xbox app) * New touch keyboard (SwiftKey?) with improved…

> * TPM 2.0 and UEFI are hardware requirements. No legacy BIOS compatibility at all? Could they try to block Linux installs? > * There is a universal mute button in the system tray so you can mute yourself system wide rather than in the app You could always click the speaker and mute it system-wide

It's about muting mic, not speakers

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Yes, and in practice it's a pain that forces/highly encourages you to use the Microsoft Store.

Well the initial version of Store (it didn't really improve in iterations of 10) was horrible UX and dodgy state changes. It's essentially just a webpage and a very bad one at that. The new store that I've been using in internal builds is far more responsive. I believe they will require a Microsoft ID to access it, but other than that I have no complaints about the new version.

I thought the current store was a native UWP app? Am I wrong?

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Linux distro repos are maintained by the community not a corporation. The only app store like that is f-droid.

Hahahahahhahahaha. You might have a point with the likes of Debian, Arch, and Gentoo, but Ubuntu, RHEL, CentOS, Fedora, SUSE, Oracle Linux, Amazon Linux, Rocky Linux are all maintained by corporations.

Regardless, both the attitude the repo maintainers have and the UX (for both users and developers) is totally different from smartphone app stores.

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I did this when Vista came out. I said fuck it and installed Ubuntu, I had enough of Microsoft bullshit. Then Ubuntu upgraded and moved all window icons to the left side and rearranged them awkwardly. On the next update, they upgraded the sound subsystem and I was without sound until I bought my next PC. Another update came and computer went to sleep when watching movies, so I had to move the mouse every minute to fi…

Every time people who literally installed linux 10 years ago and think their experience from 10 years ago still scales to today comment on these posts, I'm honestly tired of it. I don't use ubuntu (I use elementary os) and I don't have weird update issues. These replies are so tired. Every OS has issues. I bought a macbook and it was the most flakey thing ever. It literally froze up on me while doing a presentation a…

I'm not calling out Linux or Ubuntu here. I'm disappointed with all OS's, except with Mac OS which I didn't try. I can continue the story. After returning to Windows 7 which was great, guess what, Windows 8. I skipped this version, had just a customized 8.1 which was tolerable. Tried Debian, but I couldn't live with such a limited distro where my browser can't upgrade itself. Got Windows 10 which works fine, modified with Classic Shell because I can't stand new (not so new anymore) start menu. Ubuntu is in VM for some Python work but I still don't dig the UX there. Mint is probably closest to good UX I can find because it doesn't try to force me to use my PC as a mobile device.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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post #329

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I did this when Vista came out. I said fuck it and installed Ubuntu, I had enough of Microsoft bullshit. Then Ubuntu upgraded and moved all window icons to the left side and rearranged them awkwardly. On the next update, they upgraded the sound subsystem and I was without sound until I bought my next PC. Another update came and computer went to sleep when watching movies, so I had to move the mouse every minute to fi…

Every time people who literally installed linux 10 years ago and think their experience from 10 years ago still scales to today comment on these posts, I'm honestly tired of it. I don't use ubuntu (I use elementary os) and I don't have weird update issues. These replies are so tired. Every OS has issues. I bought a macbook and it was the most flakey thing ever. It literally froze up on me while doing a presentation a…

Same can be said about people commenting about how shit Vista was and assuming W10 must be the same. Clueless morons on both sides. Who cares about your crappy distro or your W10 Pro?
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