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Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by 6510 »

jonathansampson wrote: post #628
permo-w wrote: post #611

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Will this search engine have better filters, and an option to sort results? It’s always bothered me about Google that there’s no sort feature, especially by date

Can you tell me more about the "better filters" request? Regarding sorting , that's great feedback. I'm curious how you would see this implemented. Would the sort by date arrange results in order of their modified date, created date (such as when they were published), or perhaps their first indexed date? There are a few other dates that could be considered too.

a slider that adds weight to time stamps

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by potatoman22 »

bitL wrote: post #650
hnlmorg wrote: post #564

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DDG already includes Google (amongst others) in its results. It's not just a front end to Bing, like many assume (though I can't find DDG's article on the subject to directly cite). The thing with people who switch to DDG is, they do so consciously for privacy reasons but then forget that the reason G's results are so good is because they add little bits of context in through their profiling. But that doesn't mean th…

G's results are terrible for over 5 years and now they are reaching uselessness levels of Altavista. No G, I didn't want to search for what you suggested, really not.

> "This new-fangled technology is worse than what we had back in my day!"

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by marshray »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #637
hnlmorg wrote: post #564

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DDG already includes Google (amongst others) in its results. It's not just a front end to Bing, like many assume (though I can't find DDG's article on the subject to directly cite). The thing with people who switch to DDG is, they do so consciously for privacy reasons but then forget that the reason G's results are so good is because they add little bits of context in through their profiling. But that doesn't mean th…

The best thing about Google is that if you're on a website - say a travel website looking at hotels in Thailand - and then you Google "USD" it automatically completes "USD to Thai Baht" and then just gives you the answer very user friendly automatically. The same is true if you'd search "Best p" - you get "Best places to visit in Thailand" immediately, with a bunch of cards that are easy to read and use and get to mo…

You're happy to give up your privacy just to save typing a few characters?

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by Judgmentality »

Kiro wrote: post #648
eyelidlessness wrote: post #647

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Huh? I wasn’t suggesting the person should apologize. I was suggesting they should ask about the user’s experience rather than telling it.

Or they can just tell them facts instead of pretending to care what a random hater thinks. Just like they did. They also asked what bad UX they referred to, so they did what you wanted but it was still disrespectful apparently. If genuine feedback was met with "go fuck yourself" we could maybe call it user hostility but this was not.

I feel like pretending to listen, which is what he is doing, is worse than saying "go fuck yourself" because then it would be honest. I find it bizarre you find his feedback genuine, as to me it's the same thing as "go fuck yourself" but neatly wrapped up in a "I pretend to care what you say" format.

If he came straight out and said "I don't care about your opinion and here's why" I would respect him. Instead he just talks over the people he's pretending to listen to.

His job should be to solicit feedback, not dictate it. And if he's going to dictate it I wish he would at least be upfront about it.

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by gigamatt »

aarnushrithkha wrote: post #610
gigamatt wrote: post #244

I've been working on this private search engine https://private.sh/ for a while. It encrypts your query using client-side javascript so only the Gigablast search engine can read your query. And your query is delivered to Gigablast through an anonymizing proxy that is not in Gigablast's control. So you get TOR-like privacy. Also Gigablast's privacy policy https://gigablast.com/privacy.html shows that your query is not…

Im using private.sh but what is the proof that it does'nt have any logs and it isn't open source. And please add a anonymous view like startpage and make it open source.

The encryption code is open source as it is in the javascript so you can evaluate it. It's also available in the chrome plug-in, and there's now the app in the android play store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.privatesh.... so the private.sh web server or related anonymyzing proxy don't have access to your query since it is encrypted. on the gigablast servers will know your query, but they won't know your IP address.

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by gigamatt »

howolduis wrote: post #371
gigamatt wrote: post #244

I've been working on this private search engine https://private.sh/ for a while. It encrypts your query using client-side javascript so only the Gigablast search engine can read your query. And your query is delivered to Gigablast through an anonymizing proxy that is not in Gigablast's control. So you get TOR-like privacy. Also Gigablast's privacy policy https://gigablast.com/privacy.html shows that your query is not…

are u planning to add image search? also where is the source code?

the source code for gigablast is on github. yes, gigablast has image search but private.sh needs to start using it soon.

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by gigamatt »

1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #505
zzyzxd wrote: post #46

Previous related discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26328758 If things go as planned, this may become a paid, ad-free, zero-tracking search engine. I can't express how exciting this is to me. Over the past few years, I have made several attempts to replace Google Search with DuckDuckGo. But they have all failed and I always ended up changing the default search engine back to Google. I mean, DDG worked f…

"If things go as planned, this may become a paid, ad-free, zero-tracking search engine." In 1998 when Google's founders announced their search engine they claimed it would be less commercial, more academic, more transparent and they would avoid the influence of advertising. Did things "go as planned." Not even close. What is the lesson here. Meanwhile, every search submitted during the "beta" period is subject to non…

hi, gigablast creator, matt, here. thanks for mentioning gigablast. i've been coding web search engines for almost 25 years so it's always nice to see ppl recognize. i wish more ppl would care about these things. with enough people caring i think i (or we) could make gigablast into a super transparent, private search engine that doesn't rely on big tech like the other guys. really i just need more hardware at this point as that is the main technical hurdle for improving results quality and performance. if somebody would give me like $1M in amd-based minicomputers (i like minicomputers better than big servers - preferably asus) i think we could have something much better and faster, although what is there is pretty good -- this might be enough to really get things going.

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by onlyrealcuzzo »

marshray wrote: post #653
onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #637

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The best thing about Google is that if you're on a website - say a travel website looking at hotels in Thailand - and then you Google "USD" it automatically completes "USD to Thai Baht" and then just gives you the answer very user friendly automatically. The same is true if you'd search "Best p" - you get "Best places to visit in Thailand" immediately, with a bunch of cards that are easy to read and use and get to mo…

You're happy to give up your privacy just to save typing a few characters?

Considering that I use Google instead of DDG primarily because of how good the contextually aware results are for the things I most commonly search - sure.

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by Judgmentality »

slver wrote: post #526
Judgmentality wrote: post #416

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> I'm responding to users. I'm gonna have to agree with GP that you're responding too much. I don't even use Brave nor do I care but I still browse HN. Obviously different people will see things differently, but you seem very defensive and it makes you come across as difficult. Like I said, I have no skin in this game. You are welcome to ignore what I say if you don't find it helpful.

Jesus why is everyone an armchair psychologist all of a sudden. Let the person respond. Why the fuck is everyone sharing opinions here about Brave if they DON’T want Brave to hear and respond? It disturbs your little perfect echo chamber?

I'm genuinely curious what echo chamber you think I'm in. The echo chamber where I'm unaware what people think of Brave?

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by dd444fgdfg »

pythux wrote: post #579
dd444fgdfg wrote: post #516

I'd really like to be able to customise (explicitly not based on my "behaviour"), how I want my search results ranked. I don't really care how you do it, let me upvote/downvote results, or let me build rules, but consider the default results just a starting point and then overlay the users preferred index

We are actually planning to implement just that! You can read more about our proposal here: https://brave.com/goggles/

damn, I can't believe how quickly you wrote that after my comment! :D
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