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The person who the original tweet was referring to (it's not private; they admitted it), just tweeted a GIF about "witnessing karma". https://twitter.com/Prafulfillment/status/140093402468041523... EDIT: Reply on HN by the author: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27400221

It's like these two people are competing for the worst self-own. From what I can tell (and the communications on this are very confusing), Biggar goes after Prafulfillment without having his facts straight enough to avoid issuing a nearly immediate correction. Then when Biggar gets canned, Prafulfillment gloats in a way that draws attention to their identity, without clarifying what actually happened, leaving Biggar'…

> Prafulfillment gloats in a way that draws attention to their identity, without clarifying what actually happened, leaving Biggar's version as the only account of events. Additional tidbits of information are coming out...

Tidbits which, AFAICS, slowly tilt the balance back over in favour of Biggar having been more right than wrong: https://twitter.com/SarahBelleLin/status/1370071520953835520

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Are you claiming you do not have a conflict of interest here?

No not at all. I'm saying that it's not the reason why I couldn't comment further. The conflict of interest (I'm not sure that's the most precise term here, but I'll go with it) is obvious, everyone's aware of it, and it doesn't normally (nor should it) stop me from sharing information with the community. HN readers are curious, generally like more information rather than less, and are smart enough to make up their o…

The actual difference between the bloodless "conflict of interest" and the line you did use to explain the title change is of course that the latter implies that this was not why Biggar was expelled, i.e. that there was some other reason -- "he had it coming anyway, it's just that I can't say precisely why."

Since you're not stupid we have to assume you knew very well that this was what you were saying, so we have to conclude you said exactly that because exactly that was what you wanted to say.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Any post that challenges dang will likely get voted down. This is normal given his position and it's the price of admission (see my other reply to his post). People also rarely vote on how substantive your post is but on whether they agree with it or not. It's not in the spirit of HN to do this but you really can't control human behavior and people do this without being fully aware of it. Due to how human voting beha…

It's good it wasn't deleted, but disappointing that he winds up editorializing it with his quip. I've come to not expect much more from HackerNews. Sometimes http://n-gate.com/ is the best summary one can ask for.

Wow, that's certainly a faster way to read HN! :-D

Thanks!

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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post #392

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Oh yes that's clear, but it's also bloody clever and you get points for that. I'm sorry if my reference seemed like a swipe; I was just trying to speak duck with you. When people say this kind of stuff to me, I try not to take it personally because the truth is that you don't know me and I don't know you; what you're saying is not what you think of me , it's what you think of the image that you've constructed from a…

I don’t know how you do this, dang, but I certainly wish I had your level of chill.

Yeah, dang: We need to know what you drink, smoke, or inject.

Particularly the more choleric among us coughwho, me?cough could use some tips.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Given that the people in question lack apparently any sort of civic virtue or else they wouldn't be engaging in this behaviour in the first place, where else do you propose one exposes dirty laundry other than in the public? This is exactly why people in positions of power are afraid of transparency and why there is such a anti-media bias in the tech industry.

You're assuming the truth of one side in the matter, with very limited information.

This is the umpteenth time I've seen this "But we don't know anything about it!" argument, and besides surprising me it's beginning to piss me off. We know quite a bit. Why do people keep claiming we don't -- just too lazy to read the thread where this stuff is repeatedly linked, or trying to promote some agenda?

https://twitter.com/SarahBelleLin/status/1370071520953835520

https://archive.is/Z55Oe

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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post #600

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not that big of an assumption given that, as we have seen, the person in question had no reason to make that up and a lot to lose.

People have all sorts of reasons to air dirty laundry; publicity, for one. Assuming you know the whole story based on the retelling of one side in a tweet is a mistake.

There were reply tweets from the other guy in literally the same Twitter thread, so what "retelling of one side" are you talking about?

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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post #96

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pg believes the Civil War wasn't actually about slavery ( http://www.paulgraham.com/marginal.html ), so I'm not sure that Sam actually made the place worse .

That's a really disingenuous take from a single line in an essay that is not about the subject. If we could say "The Civil War was about slavery" and be done with the subject, I'm pretty sure so many books, studies, and histories about the subject would not have been made.

> If we could say "The Civil War was about slavery" and be done with the subject, I'm pretty sure so many books, studies, and histories about the subject would not have been made.

"We" can. Apparently some people can't. There's a difference.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

#658

I’m confused. So YC kicked out the guy who complained about it on Twitter and not the people who advocated for lying to skip lines? Wtf?

I'm guessing it goes like this: 1. Skipping vaccine line and talking about it is not actually against BookFace/YC ToS, or it would be a stretch to apply ToS. 2. Publicly talking about matters inside the private group is against ToS since it breaches privacy. In a way that paints the group negatively, nonetheless. Pretty straightforward. It doesn't really matter *to YC* whether anyone skipped a line or not, what matte…

> 2. Publicly talking about matters inside the private group is against ToS

So never mind their high-falutin' ideas of Founders being A Better Class Of People; in the end it's just frickin' Fight Club after all.

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post #626

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I mean, we can say that and be done with the subject. For instance, just look at the seceding states' articles of secession: they quite plainly spell out that they are seceding because of slavery and to join the other slaveholding states. But there are a whole lot of Americans who wish to believe that the South had a noble cause ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Cause_of_the_Confederacy ), and they are more than h…

I think you are attributing a lot of things to Graham that he didn't say. He did not say that it was not about slavery. Again, if it was an issue that could be expressed in a single sentence, it would not have inspired the many studies that it has. That is not to deny that the Civil War was about slavery, which I am certainly not. As to what Graham believes, a single sentence means only that. And does not mean he thi…

> I think you are attributing a lot of things to Graham that he didn't say. He did not say that it was not about slavery.

What you are saying is just simply quite literally not true. He said exactly that:

> "Better stick to the standard cartoon version that the Civil War was about slavery"

-- http://www.paulgraham.com/marginal.html

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