This seems like a good space for an online service to get involved. Certified mail is often a good way to get through to companies with practices like this. They handle it differently because the fact that you are sending it via certified mail usually means that you are doing so to provide legal documentation. It should be easy enough to setup a business that sends cancellation letters for you with the proof you need…
Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take to cancel it
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Re: Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take to cancel it
#652Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does this sort of thing still end up hurting your credit score though? I don't know how this actually works, but I feel like I've heard scary things about it.
If that invalid "debt" was still on your credit report you'd just file a dispute to have it removed.
It's very difficult as a consumer to get things off your credit report. You may be able to do.it, but expect it to take months of effort. For many small debts, it's just not worth it (and I believe this is by design).
Re: Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take to cancel it
#653Oh oh oh here's another good one. A few years ago, I heard that The WELL still existed---yes, that classic pre/early internet community---so I subscribed. It turned out to be 99% dead and basically crap, so I tried to cancel, but nobody ever answered email and the telephone just went to a voicemail box in the void. Someone just kept collecting money but never responding to attempts to get it to stop. Eventually I just disputed the charge with the credit card company.
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#654The Financial Times isn't as bad, but I did have to call them to cancel whereas I could sign up online...
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> People that read HN are absolutely the type that would consider paying for NYT (or at least the two cohorts have great overlap). ?? I automatically assume that articles that are written by NYT, NewYorker, and The Guardian are complete BS and should be ignored. 0 journalism found there. Wanna spend money somewhere? Spend it on The Atlantic or Bloomberg.
Interesting grouping. I would've put The Atlantic and The New Yorker in the reputable group, and Bloomberg in the BS group.
Cancer:
CNN, FoxNews, Vice, The Guardian, Business Insider
Bad: NewYorker, New York Times, The Information
Not Bad: The Economist
Good: The Atlantic, Axios, Bloomberg, The Politico (at least in the EU)
Very good: Reuters
Re: Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take to cancel it
#656I just cancelled and it was relatively painless, to their credit. When they asked the reason, I said that political coverage was unfair. Left is OK, unfair is not. I don't consider myself "on the left" but I really don't mind a publication being left of center or right of center. If it's good, I will pay for it (I subscribed tp The Atlantic at least twice, and the New Yorker once, and probably others in a mix of prin…
I’m not rage-quitting yet but the decision to capitalize the word used to describe the skin color of one group of people, but not the words used to describe the skin colors of other people, is just so completely asinine and panderous that I have considered doing so.
Are they not in line with the APA styleguide?
https://apastyle.apa.org/style-grammar-guidelines/bias-free-...
I know it's a recent trend but I thought the capitalization was applied to all ethnicities.
Re: Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take to cancel it
#657If you really need to read an article, you can just delete the nyt-m and nyt-a cookies then refresh (with trackers disabled).
Re: Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take to cancel it
#658Earlier quoted context omitted.
This isn't the first time I've seen NYT cancellation process in my social feeds. It has to be a negative feedback loop cycle. People that read HN are absolutely the type that would consider paying for NYT (or at least the two cohorts have great overlap). This cancellation process never considered the impact of internet cancel culture and rage reactions. It's far easier to damage a brand than it is to build it up.
> People that read HN are absolutely the type that would consider paying for NYT (or at least the two cohorts have great overlap). ?? I automatically assume that articles that are written by NYT, NewYorker, and The Guardian are complete BS and should be ignored. 0 journalism found there. Wanna spend money somewhere? Spend it on The Atlantic or Bloomberg.
> I automatically assume that articles that are written by NYT, NewYorker, and The Guardian are complete BS and should be ignored.
Can you please elaborate on why you feel that way?
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#659Earlier quoted context omitted.
Presumably not, if they use dark patterns and not only survive, but thrive. Right?
Again, I highly doubt that NYT relies on these dark patterns, but I could be wrong. If NYT actually relied on these tactics to keep themselves afloat, then I wouldn’t call it “thriving”, simply because these kinds of techniques are not sustainable at all in the long run.
Well, the OP is about a dark pattern...
And a common definition of thriving is growing in profitability, for which stock price can often be a good metric. Their stock price gas increased 289% over the last five years.
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#660There should be a law that you can cancel via the same method that you signed up. For example you can sign up for recurring paid channels on the Amazon app on Roku, but have to log in on the computer to cancel. What happens is my 80-year old parents try a week of HBO, Starz, Showtime, Britbox etc. Then can't figure out where they actually signed up. Was it under roku, under amazon, under a new app? What credentials d…
My understanding is that California has it and that you could use a CA proxy to get that easy path for NYC. I haven’t needed it yet.