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U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests

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th48 wrote: post #642
dhruvkar wrote: post #47

Are there people here on HN that believe the election was stolen? I haven't seen any evidence, most of the lawsuits haven't borne fruit either. However, I also recognize that there may be blindspots/biases. I'd really like to hear from anyone who believes this, to present a cogent argument. I promise not to attack. I want to hear the argument from the other side. I also beseech the rest of HN to please refrain from a…

Absolutely, given how polarized things are, I have little trouble believing poll workers and others with the ability to put their thumbs on the scales would do just that.

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Post by newguy1234 »

umvi wrote: post #72

How did we arrive to this point where a huge chunk of the population is in one reality and another huge chunk of the population is in another reality? Segregation of information sources? Politicization of media outlets? Self-reinforcing social bubbles? A combination of all of them and more?

Social media censorship has pushed the right-wing to go to alternate sources for information. For example, after extensive censorship and harassments on reddit, the Donald sub simply created their own separate website, thedonald.win, and now it is ranked at #430 for traffic rank in USA by Alexa. That's a huge website considering it was just a sub on reddit at one point.

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Post by MrMan »

sagichmal wrote: post #641
coryfklein wrote: post #353

It's the practical erosion of Free Speech. Liberal (small "l" liberal) democracy and liberal science thrives on members: 1. Being willing to admit they may be wrong 2. Having access to a diverse information diet But the past two decades have shown erosion of not only legal Free Speech, but practical free speech: * Whereas previously they were just ignored (or even rebutted), today employees, students, and professors…

It is both ludicrous and offensive to suggest that the things we're seeing now are in any way a consequence of curtailing hateful speech.

he is sent here to say things that lead us to accept the deeds done by white nationalists

people have different thoughts! some people want an ethnostate for white people and some people dont! we just disagree. too bad that censorship caused all this to happen!

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LeafletOnDemand wrote: post #248

'Far-Right Protestors' So if you're a Trump supporter you're now apart of the 'Far-Right'? I wonder if this labeling by the media has led to the protests we see today. As a side note, you never see 'Far-Left Protestors' as a title. Surely there had to have been some 'Far-Left' protests in recent memory.

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Post by newguy1234 »

hyko wrote: post #522
umvi wrote: post #72

How did we arrive to this point where a huge chunk of the population is in one reality and another huge chunk of the population is in another reality? Segregation of information sources? Politicization of media outlets? Self-reinforcing social bubbles? A combination of all of them and more?

The President of the United States can’t admit that he lost, and is evidently willing to throw an entire country and political system under the bus in the service of his ego. One side effect of this personality type seizing power is that the Overton window has been inflated into a vast, festering portal through which our worst nightmares can crawl out. I doubt it was his intent, but it is the result. You’ve almost go…

At this point, Trump has effectively created his own political party. If you look at die hard Trump supporters, they're quick to label many republicans as traitors.

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Post by kgog »

Dirlewanger wrote: post #489
shadowfacts wrote: post #40

It is despicable how tepid the police response to armed rioters storming the Capitol has been compared to the response to BLM protests over the summer.

What evidence do you have that they are armed? In every piece of media I've seen, no one has anything in their hands.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01/06/us/washington-dc-pro...

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Post by FartyMcFarter »

Merman_Mike wrote: post #323
tibbydudeza wrote: post #89

Guns has been drawn inside the barricaded senate chamber. https://missouriindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/g...

A woman has been shot inside the capitol building by Capitol Police. Not going to post links, but there is video on Twitter.

Are the people with big guns in that video law enforcement or protesters?

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Post by chordalkeyboard »

umvi wrote: post #72

How did we arrive to this point where a huge chunk of the population is in one reality and another huge chunk of the population is in another reality? Segregation of information sources? Politicization of media outlets? Self-reinforcing social bubbles? A combination of all of them and more?

Social and technological forces. Specifically the interplay between the regulatory and economic spheres leads people to take a survival interest in regulation. But voters are rationally ignorant because the bandwidth of the electoral box is less than one bit per year in most cases. So they're interested, but not informed.

Furthermore the world is so complicated and technology is so powerful that people are more affected by simulated reality than real reality. Major events that affect people's lives are mediated by technology that can be used to convey falsity as easily as truth (perhaps easier).

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