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Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by Pamar »

aplummer wrote: post #573
h3cate wrote: post #565

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it your civic duty? What will you having this vaccine do for anybody but yourself?

Its a good question let me answer - some people can't get the vaccine. Right now, it's banned for people with allergies. Babies can't get it. For some people, they can never get it due to their immune system. Their only chance is never coming into contact with a contagious person, so that means as many of us need to get the vaccine as possible to ensure that doesn't happen.

Can anyone clarify what "allergies" mean in this context?

I have a (now really mild) allergy to some pollen; as s child it made me miserable for two months (late April to early June) with nose constantly running, puffy eyes.

Now I barely sneeze twice a day and only in some specific areas... never got tested so I don't know which plant I am allergic to (and if it is the plant getting extinct or my body getting better at handling it).

Would this prevent me from taking the vaccine?

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by rglullis »

oldie wrote: post #434
danpalmer wrote: post #21

Unfortunately my vaccine choice is somewhat limited by medication I'm on, and therefore I may have to wait for the right type of vaccine. This is why it's important that everyone who can take it does take it, because there's a percentage of the population who can't, and we are only protected when the community reaches some level of heard immunity. If you're able to take it please do.

This is an important and under-considered factor when people are deciding about getting vaccinated. Other groups of people who can't currently get vaccinated, at least in my country, include children and pregnant women. They all deserve protection. I wish you safety and good health until a suitable vaccine becomes available to you.

The number of people who can't get vaccinated will certainly be lower than the number of people who got infected already and are immune.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by h3cate »

henryaj wrote: post #618
h3cate wrote: post #609

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Just replying to each conversation and I'm lazy so couldn't muster a unique response for each person :) I'm sorry if I offended you with my copy/pasting EDIT: One of my responses had a little extra tacked on so I'm deducting one apology from you

You needn't have bothered. You shared a highly speculative piece which seemed to not mention the Pfizer vaccine at all, which largely said the opposite of what you are saying (i.e. the Oxford vaccine reduced both symptomatic and asymptomatic infections) and had one quote talking about a "worst case scenario" in which that might not be true. And you shared it 8 times, which is 8 times too many.

Somebody else posted link about quote from Pfizer chairman saying it's completely unknown if transmission continues after vaccination. Happy to read any evidence either way

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by jnurmine »

pgalvin wrote: post #537
mongol wrote: post #75

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Comparable, I don't know. But during the swine flue influenza, the Swedish government rolled out a large vaccination campaign, encouraging everyone to get vaccinated. Unfortunately, it turned out that children in a certain age could get chronic narcolepsy from the vaccine Pandemrix. About 230 children have been reported suspected to get this side effect from the vaccine.

This actually isn’t really true. Europe jumped the gun out of caution, but multiple later studies have found no link. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/history/narcoleps...

Please see my reply to your other comment with the same link.

There is a link in Finland and Sweden with narcolepsy among people who have HLA-DQB1*06:02 and who got Pandemrix.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by h3cate »

Pamar wrote: post #651
aplummer wrote: post #573

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its a good question let me answer - some people can't get the vaccine. Right now, it's banned for people with allergies. Babies can't get it. For some people, they can never get it due to their immune system. Their only chance is never coming into contact with a contagious person, so that means as many of us need to get the vaccine as possible to ensure that doesn't happen.

Can anyone clarify what "allergies" mean in this context? I have a (now really mild) allergy to some pollen; as s child it made me miserable for two months (late April to early June) with nose constantly running, puffy eyes. Now I barely sneeze twice a day and only in some specific areas... never got tested so I don't know which plant I am allergic to (and if it is the plant getting extinct or my body getting better…

From what has been reported in the UK the people having reactions are those that have to carry epi pens. However I am not a doctor, somebody who's studied medicine for years will be able to give you more info

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by jolmg »

h3cate wrote: post #621
jolmg wrote: post #616

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> Lowers the risk you ... infect other people Not necessarily: > Pfizer chairman: We're not sure if someone can transmit Covid after vaccination https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25298299 People that don't know that might be confident they don't need to keep distance or wear a mask anymore.

Prepare to be downvoted for providing evidence against the narrative..

I think everyone agrees on priorities but nuance is lacking from comments and everyone just assumes the worst interpretation.

EDIT: Though the behavior towards you just seems spiteful now.

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Post by wincy »

freehunter wrote: post #150
kylebenzle wrote: post #74

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I've had Covid-19. As far as I know we still don't know if having it leads to immunity but wouldn't having it and recovering be "better" than a vaccine? If so, why get a vaccine for something you are immune to?

Having it and recovering from it still occasionally leaves your body altered/damaged in a way we're not sure how to predict/treat. As far as we can tell, the vaccine does not cause the same amount of damage that actually suffering from the disease can cause. Getting it early and getting immunity works great for fairly mild things like chicken pox, which is less likely to leave permanent/long term damage. But not for…

I had it in March at age 33 and I’ve got this barb? Maybe you’d call it in my right lung. X-Rays showed up fine but still noticed it for months where it was a constant pain every breath, even though oxygen levels are fine. It’s finally only a sometime thing now instead of every waking moment.

My wife didn’t get off so “easy”, she coughed for about five months straight until one day she just finally stopped coughing.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by XorNot »

jolmg wrote: post #616
progval wrote: post #572

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Lowers the risk you are infected and infect other people and/or take a bed in a crowded hospital

> Lowers the risk you ... infect other people Not necessarily: > Pfizer chairman: We're not sure if someone can transmit Covid after vaccination https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25298299 People that don't know that might be confident they don't need to keep distance or wear a mask anymore.

This is old news, at least one vaccine is reported to provide sterilizing immunity, so the expectation is swinging towards the idea that probably they all will.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6...

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