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Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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So, maybe I'm not understanding something, but there are numerous reports from what appear to be reputable sources -- a few listed below -- claiming that there were uncovered missing votes during recounts in Georgia. However, there isn't a word said about this on CNN, MSNBC or any other heavily left-leaning media sources. The only sources that I hear talking about this are on YouTube. I don't give a shit if I get dow…

I'm not sure I understand the aim of your message -- the recount did what it is supposed to (well, count again). What does that have to do with the press-release from YouTube?

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

#652

So, maybe I'm not understanding something, but there are numerous reports from what appear to be reputable sources -- a few listed below -- claiming that there were uncovered missing votes during recounts in Georgia. However, there isn't a word said about this on CNN, MSNBC or any other heavily left-leaning media sources. The only sources that I hear talking about this are on YouTube. I don't give a shit if I get dow…

The "missing votes" were found during the recount, and added t the eventually certified totals. So yeah, the system works. Whats the issue again?

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

#653

If we don't have a meaningful signature match, than we don't have a meaningful way to prevent fraud with mail in ballots. Period. Bad ballot Rejection rate of 6% in previous election to now 0.02%, with mail in ballots. Mismatched signatures resulted in a rejection for only 0.02% of all absentee ballots cast. How is that even possible. They counted almost everything. For those of you that think its unfair to reject ba…

can you link me a source that proves that the rejection rate of 6% went down to 0.02%? thank you!

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

#654

So, maybe I'm not understanding something, but there are numerous reports from what appear to be reputable sources -- a few listed below -- claiming that there were uncovered missing votes during recounts in Georgia. However, there isn't a word said about this on CNN, MSNBC or any other heavily left-leaning media sources. The only sources that I hear talking about this are on YouTube. I don't give a shit if I get dow…

Yeah this bothers me, whether Trump won or lost is kind of besides the point, the real issue is that clearly the media “wants” a specific outcome and has been doing as much as they can to make that outcome more probable starting even way before the day of the election.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

#655

If we don't have a meaningful signature match, than we don't have a meaningful way to prevent fraud with mail in ballots. Period. Bad ballot Rejection rate of 6% in previous election to now 0.02%, with mail in ballots. Mismatched signatures resulted in a rejection for only 0.02% of all absentee ballots cast. How is that even possible. They counted almost everything. For those of you that think its unfair to reject ba…

> If we don't have a meaningful signature match, than we don't have a meaningful way to prevent fraud with mail in ballots. Period. We can check for duplicate votes. Submitting fraudulent ballots in quantities necessary to change the results while avoiding submitting duplicate ballots (which would be caught, as we saw with the Jill Stokke) would require either: 1. Extremely good data about who had voted and who had n…

You can vote on election day even though you sent a mail in ballot earlier right? They just destroy the mailed in one.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

#656

So, maybe I'm not understanding something, but there are numerous reports from what appear to be reputable sources -- a few listed below -- claiming that there were uncovered missing votes during recounts in Georgia. However, there isn't a word said about this on CNN, MSNBC or any other heavily left-leaning media sources. The only sources that I hear talking about this are on YouTube. I don't give a shit if I get dow…

> However, there isn't a word said about this on CNN, MSNBC or any other heavily left-leaning media sources.

That's untrue, nor are those "heavily left-leaning" sites [1]. With a quick google search, I can already see that CNN did report on it [2]. There's no reason for it to be a "huge news story" because they caught it, it wasn't malicious, and it didn't affect the vote tally in any meaningful way.

[1] https://www.adfontesmedia.com/

[2] https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/biden-trump-us-el...

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

#657

The wikipedia article for the 1876 presidential election should probably be removed from google search as well [1], since it alleges widespread fraud that changed the result of the election, and we are past the safe harbor deadline. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1876_United_States_presidentia...

Except this is fact-based article. The issue at hand is that there are widespread claims being made that are completely baseless. They are not substantiated by facts. Videos that are making claims without any evidence are not equivalent to an actual scandal/controversy that is backed by evidence. In other words, the claims being made in this election will not be presented in the same format of the article you shared because no one can point to any actual widespread election meddling or vote tampering. I really am blown away why this fundamental distinction is so hard for people to grasp. I can make any false claims about anyone or anything. This does not inherently make something controversial and give it credence. If on the other hand my claims were not fabricated and have merit, then they may result in a scandal/controversy. It seems like you believe because this is being said over and over again that it somehow deserves attention or is credible. That's a really unfortunate position. You cannot will facts into into existence.

"Wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it. Right is right even if no one else is doing it." ― Saint Augustine

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

#658
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A lot of short, knee-jerk reactions on this thread, not to mention snark and downright flame. Seeing as this is at the top of HN right now, can we try to elevate the level of discourse a little bit? A few questions to consider: 1. Is content moderation necessary in online platforms? I think the answer to this question is self-evident, but others may disagree and so I think it's worth posing. FWIW, HN has moderation,…

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Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

#659

If there is to be toleration in the world, one of the things taught in schools must be the habit of weighing evidence, and the practice of not giving full assent to propositions which there is no reason to believe true. For example, the art of reading the newspapers should be taught. The schoolmaster should select some incident which happened a good many years ago, and roused political passions in its day. He should…

"False balance, also bothsidesism, is a media bias in which journalists present an issue as being more balanced between opposing viewpoints than the evidence supports. Journalists may present evidence and arguments out of proportion to the actual evidence for each side, or may omit information that would establish one side's claims as baseless. False balance has been cited as a major cause of spreading misinformation…

GP's quote implores the reader to do the balancing. When journalists do it (especially poorly) it becomes just another facet of a the publication's/writer's bias.

That's not to say that a good counter argument shouldn't be presented in the article, just that a moral mandate to include both sides often creates that false balance

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

#660

So, maybe I'm not understanding something, but there are numerous reports from what appear to be reputable sources -- a few listed below -- claiming that there were uncovered missing votes during recounts in Georgia. However, there isn't a word said about this on CNN, MSNBC or any other heavily left-leaning media sources. The only sources that I hear talking about this are on YouTube. I don't give a shit if I get dow…

>So, maybe I'm not understanding something

You're right about that. Most claims about election fraud have absolutely nothing to do with the two links you are shared.

And your links don't show fraud. And your links don't show anything that would change the outcome in Georgia let alone the election as a whole.

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