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Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by yarcob »

This mechanism is also what recently broke all HP printer drivers on macOS.

HP accidentally revoked their certificate, and since macOS automatically checks it before loading code printing and scanning with my HP printer no longer works.

My mom called me with the same issue. She didn't do anything, but all of the sudden her printer stopped working.

There is no way I know of to override the accidental revocation.

Installing updates from Apple and HP didn't help.

Online certificate revocation is a really bad idea for desktop software.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by ngcc_hk »

eatingCake wrote: post #648
jonahbenton wrote: post #629

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Get a Thinkpad, P-series, lots of options. Run Fedora on it. Great machines, great keyboard, 4k screens, good color, goot battery life, lightweight. Everything works. Mac-level price, and worth it.

I would like to get a thinkpad, but I'm not sure Lenovo can be trusted any more than Apple can, especially since Apple atleast pretends to care about customer security. https://slate.com/technology/2015/02/lenovo-superfish-scanda...

That would be a worry. At least the people using Apple cares and tell you. And observe them very closely.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by ornornor »

jonahbenton wrote: post #629
areoform wrote: post #533

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So yesterday I wrote about the blurring lines of ownership, and people came back with some fairly disparate responses. It's fair to say that I was mostly dismissed. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25058952 And this is why I won't be moving to Apple silicon. Apple already has the ability to restrict whats apps I can run (they can simply toggle a switch for all users to "no unsigned binaries"), and congrats! Apple…

Get a Thinkpad, P-series, lots of options. Run Fedora on it. Great machines, great keyboard, 4k screens, good color, goot battery life, lightweight. Everything works. Mac-level price, and worth it.

How is 4K support and fractional scaling? Does it work well?

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by cyberlurker »

grezql wrote: post #383
modeless wrote: post #19

You've got to be kidding me. When Apple's servers are down, all Macs worldwide start freezing randomly? My XCode is hanging during builds, is this why? This code signing enforcement stuff has gone way too far. Heads should roll for this.

"Heads should roll for this" - careful with the language. Nowadays you may get banned for preaching "beheading".

Are you referring to Steve Bannon who said Dr. Fauci should be beheaded? Or something else?

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by ornornor »

eatingCake wrote: post #648
jonahbenton wrote: post #629

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Get a Thinkpad, P-series, lots of options. Run Fedora on it. Great machines, great keyboard, 4k screens, good color, goot battery life, lightweight. Everything works. Mac-level price, and worth it.

I would like to get a thinkpad, but I'm not sure Lenovo can be trusted any more than Apple can, especially since Apple atleast pretends to care about customer security. https://slate.com/technology/2015/02/lenovo-superfish-scanda...

Lenovo is junk for anything but business class laptops. That the thinkpads X P W and T. The rest is the disposable, unrepairable, bloated junk you’d expect from consumer level products.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by enkrs »

sgtnoodle wrote: post #599
acomjean wrote: post #553

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My partner bought a razer 13 inch to replace a MacBook Air. It wasn’t cheap, the build quality is excellent and it handles everything (she’s in an orchestra and records her parts on it, does graphic design and sometimes plays fortnite.). The screen is quite nice and the build quality is better than my system 76 (onyx pro) which I really like too. Dave2d on YouTube gives pretty short and decent laptop reviews. I think…

My 2017 razer stealth 13" has rather questionable build quality. * Once a month or so, the touchscreen flips out and starts registering dozens of random finger taps per second. There are tons of complaints on the internet, but Razer never acknowledged it as a known issue. * One of the long rubber pads on the bottom fell off after about a year and a half. * The USB-C power cord's insulation was frayed from day one. *…

Many of the signal issues can be caused by a faulty or low quality power supply. It took me a good half year until I finaly fugured why my Thinkpad touchpad and screen was acting up similar to your description. Turned out that my 65W power supply from Amazon was causing all the issues.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by rawoke083600 »

areoform wrote: post #533
submeta wrote: post #2

Unbelievable. When I read the tweet (tried to post here as well), I suddenly realized why my Mac was unresponsive an hour ago. Here is another tweet that describes the problem in more detail: https://mobile.twitter.com/llanga/status/1326989724704268289 > I am currently unable to work because macOS sends hashes of every opened executable to some server of theirs and when `trustd` and `syspolicyd` are unable to do so,…

So yesterday I wrote about the blurring lines of ownership, and people came back with some fairly disparate responses. It's fair to say that I was mostly dismissed. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25058952 And this is why I won't be moving to Apple silicon. Apple already has the ability to restrict whats apps I can run (they can simply toggle a switch for all users to "no unsigned binaries"), and congrats! Apple…

My ASUS Zenbook has been solid ! But the macs are definitely prettier.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by ece »

Maybe apps should be signed and issued certs by neutral authorities like SSL certs are issued (like Let's Encrypt).. Maybe also issue bulk cert updates with OS updates or virus scan updates like browser updates bring SSL root cert updates..

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by andrewmd5 »

m4rtink wrote: post #576
jonny_eh wrote: post #363

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It's even simpler than people not caring, people don't know.

And they don't know because the hidden source of the binaries their overpriced hardware is running. So users can't inspect the source and look for hidden "gems" like this one, let alone fix those intentional bugs themselves - not just due to not having the source, but the hardware refusing to boot anything not signed by the blessed key of Apple.

Are Macbooks really overpriced? A Microsoft Surface or a Razer laptop cost roughly the same price.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by ant6n »

darthrupert wrote: post #639
areoform wrote: post #533

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So yesterday I wrote about the blurring lines of ownership, and people came back with some fairly disparate responses. It's fair to say that I was mostly dismissed. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25058952 And this is why I won't be moving to Apple silicon. Apple already has the ability to restrict whats apps I can run (they can simply toggle a switch for all users to "no unsigned binaries"), and congrats! Apple…

I think you should stick to Apple, frankly. Every time Apple comes up with something new (or just a new software release), people come out of their sheds to warn about all the bad things that will happen. And then almost none of those bad things happen. I've witnessed this dozens of times now, so a safe interpretation would be to assume that this time none of those things happen.

Not running 32bit code anymore die definitely happen
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