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Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by rck404 »

thiht wrote: post #166
jkelleyrtp wrote: post #18

Just want to put here that if you're using a Mac and haven't tried Safari recently, you're missing out. A few things: - Battery life is fantastic compared to Chrome/FF - Privacy seems to be top-notch - The tab ordering situation is now chrome-like (my biggest gripe in older versions of safari) - Experimental features are 1 click away, easily enable/disable WebGL2 - Support for the WebExtensions standard means addons…

> - Actually decent dev tools (used to be terrible) As a daily user of Safari, I can't let you say that. The devtools suck. The network tools suck (why is it so hard to find the request payload??), the elements tools suck, there are basically no extensions (React, Redux, etc.). They are just horrible. As much as I try to use only Safari, I still fallback on Firefox Dev when I need some real devtools. I use it for the…

In old safari, try setting 'max-content' to to any div 'width' attribute and it'll crash. This has been a persistent since many years and yet not fixed.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by Razengan »

wayneftw wrote: post #358
haunter wrote: post #123

Running iOS apps on the M1 Macs feels like such a game changer. Literally too cause a lot of games have been ported to iOS and now you can easily run them on Macs that were not possible before (Final Fantasy franchise for example). People can now play PUBG (although the mobile version but still). Fortnite (which have been removed but if you have downloaded it before you can still play it). And so many other games. I…

A huge step forward into Apple’s prison complex maybe. I’ll wait to use ARM on a desktop computer until an OS/platform with more freedom and a much better UI commonly runs on ARM. That will be Windows.

> That will be Windows.

The only operating system left that you still have to pay for and get third-party ads anyway, with ""telemetry"" you cannot permanently disable and an inconsistent Escheresque nightmare of a UI.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by johnisgood »

> Big Sur delivers a spacious new design

Spacious... Please, no.

> that makes navigation easier

Typically this looks like as if the OS has been made for to be used with a touchscreen, God how much I hate that. Why does my desktop OS look like it has been made for a tablet?! Heh, not really though, I do not use Windows, nor will I use macOS Big Sur, but honestly, this is just kind of a shitty direction from their part, IMO.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by pram »

heavymark wrote: post #34

Is Universal Clipboard not working for others on the latest version of iOS (stable) and Big Sur or just me?

It worked for me, just tested it. (copied on MBP, pasted to iMac. both running Big Sur. same with phone)

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by bobbymasters »

enriquto wrote: post #455
mortenjorck wrote: post #359

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a UX designer, when I see people using something in a way it wasn’t intended (and having a hundred tabs is clearly not how tabs were intended to be used), my question is: how is this UI failing them? I think the problem is that people generally don’t know when they’ll return to a tab, so they leave it open, and that creating a bookmark is asking too much commitment for something potentially ephemeral. A good syste…

> when I see people using something in a way it wasn’t intended (...), my question is: how is this UI failing them? This is a legitimate question, but not the only one in that situation. Another view, more in line with the unix philosophy, is that "using something in the intended way" is a meaningless concept. A tool must work always, no matter how it is used and abused. Thus, instead of asking "how is this UI failin…

As a non-programmer, this seems like an odd philosophy. If I use the claw side of a hammer to strike a nail, I’d expect that it is t going to work well. It seems like there’s a limit on “make the tool work regardless of the use case.”

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by cyral »

Razengan wrote: post #648
mauflows wrote: post #574

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or they just don't own a Mac and have mixed results with virtualization. Maybe instead of blaming them recognize that Safari is extremely inaccessible software for most people

> Safari is extremely inaccessible software for most people How the hell is it "extremely inaccessible" for "most" people? It's Chrome that has an weirdass non-standard UI (the practice of showing app preferences/dialogs in a webpage needs to burn in the flames of Hades) and other niggles, not to mention being a privacy black hole. If they weren't told to use Chrome (i.e. Google didn't nag people to use Chrome when t…

It’s inaccessible in the sense that most devs don’t have Macs

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by ljoshua »

SimeVidas wrote: post #616
jkelleyrtp wrote: post #18

Just want to put here that if you're using a Mac and haven't tried Safari recently, you're missing out. A few things: - Battery life is fantastic compared to Chrome/FF - Privacy seems to be top-notch - The tab ordering situation is now chrome-like (my biggest gripe in older versions of safari) - Experimental features are 1 click away, easily enable/disable WebGL2 - Support for the WebExtensions standard means addons…

Does Safari sync user data across devices (MacBook, iPhone)? Browsing history, bookmarks, etc.

Not sure about browsing history, but it definitely does bookmarks, and with various other bits of iCloud will do things like passwords (iCloud Keychain) and such. Pretty instantaneous as well. Handoff works pretty well as a way to pop open tabs between a computer and an iPhone/iPad too.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by greggman3 »

DevKoala wrote: post #248
jkelleyrtp wrote: post #18

Just want to put here that if you're using a Mac and haven't tried Safari recently, you're missing out. A few things: - Battery life is fantastic compared to Chrome/FF - Privacy seems to be top-notch - The tab ordering situation is now chrome-like (my biggest gripe in older versions of safari) - Experimental features are 1 click away, easily enable/disable WebGL2 - Support for the WebExtensions standard means addons…

Safari is my favorite browser. It is only missing some sort of containers or personas functionality. Those features are really good in Chrome/Firefox.

yes but of course it only runs on apple devices. I use all OSes so I prefer a browser that syncs across all of them

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by damm »

jkelleyrtp wrote: post #18

Just want to put here that if you're using a Mac and haven't tried Safari recently, you're missing out. A few things: - Battery life is fantastic compared to Chrome/FF - Privacy seems to be top-notch - The tab ordering situation is now chrome-like (my biggest gripe in older versions of safari) - Experimental features are 1 click away, easily enable/disable WebGL2 - Support for the WebExtensions standard means addons…

and no USB Security key support like Yubikey for U2F/FIDO.

Re: macOS Big Sur

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Post by greggman3 »

om2 wrote: post #617
sweetlucipher wrote: post #483

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The latest Safari breaks many of the WebGL demos on Shadertoy where Chrome has zero issues. I haven't investigated the reason but that could affect more than just games. TensorflowJS relies on WebGL backend for heavy model weight lifting (lots of puns)

Could you share which specific ones? In Safari 14 we changed our WebGL to be fully based on ANGLE, and that fixed more compact issues than it caused, but there may still be some bug tail which we are trying to clean up in updates.

AFAIK Safari still has WebGL2 behind a flag which means many Shadertoy shaders will not run without enabling experimental features
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