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Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by baby » Fri, May 29, 2020, 5:49 PM UTC

fzeroracer wrote: post #609

darepublic wrote: post #573

As someone of mixed ethnicity who, if I was there could easily be victimized by a senseless mob to whom I owe nothing and have committed no crime against.. yea I am not happy with how the mainstream media promotes and covers this story, downplaying the victims of the chaos and sympathizing with outpourings of anger even if illegal. To clarify, looters should not be shot, law should prevail, and the policeman involved…

This entire event is effectively self-defense from a community that has felt terrorized by the police for decades. It could've been easily prevented by actually arresting someone that committed abject murder, but the city and the police chose to instead defend a man who has killed multiple people in the past and got away with it scott-free. So when people feel like justice no longer exists, there should be no surpris…

You are totally right.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by drchopchop » Fri, May 29, 2020, 5:50 PM UTC

andrewclunn wrote: post #626

fzeroracer wrote: post #609

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This entire event is effectively self-defense from a community that has felt terrorized by the police for decades. It could've been easily prevented by actually arresting someone that committed abject murder, but the city and the police chose to instead defend a man who has killed multiple people in the past and got away with it scott-free. So when people feel like justice no longer exists, there should be no surpris…

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>the media owned by God's Chosen People trying to use blacks as violent foot soldiers for marxism

Wow, what an incredibly enlightened viewpoint, thanks for sharing. Curious to hear your thoughts on the Boston Tea Party.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by baby » Fri, May 29, 2020, 5:50 PM UTC

philwelch wrote: post #641

fzeroracer wrote: post #609

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This entire event is effectively self-defense from a community that has felt terrorized by the police for decades. It could've been easily prevented by actually arresting someone that committed abject murder, but the city and the police chose to instead defend a man who has killed multiple people in the past and got away with it scott-free. So when people feel like justice no longer exists, there should be no surpris…

Looting private businesses and setting fires isn’t “self-defense”.

An organism that is attacked can self defend in impredictible ways, there will be collaterals.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by mschuster91 » Fri, May 29, 2020, 5:51 PM UTC

Simulacra wrote: post #563

phailhaus wrote: post #363

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Eh? Do you have any examples? This is nothing new, Twitter has been applying this standard to tweets for a very long time (it's part of their ToS!). It usually results in deleting your tweet or an outright ban. The only difference here is that they've kept the tweet up since they deem it to be in the public's interest.

Would the same happen if Theil owned Twitter, and fact checked, etc. Joe Biden? IMO we would see the opposite, and liberal politicians calling for Twitter to be taken down. One person's soap box is another's tabloid.

> Would the same happen if Theil owned Twitter, and fact checked, etc. Joe Biden?

No, it would not, because generally left-wing people don't spread lies with the intention to dissuade people from voting (quite to the contrary, the left wing is fighting for people to have the right and means to vote) or call for storming the White House and start shooting.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by Thinkx220 » Fri, May 29, 2020, 5:52 PM UTC

seaknoll wrote: post #639

darepublic wrote: post #573

As someone of mixed ethnicity who, if I was there could easily be victimized by a senseless mob to whom I owe nothing and have committed no crime against.. yea I am not happy with how the mainstream media promotes and covers this story, downplaying the victims of the chaos and sympathizing with outpourings of anger even if illegal. To clarify, looters should not be shot, law should prevail, and the policeman involved…

This movement is about centuries of unjustness. To me, it is appropriate that the occasional bystander and business is overlooked. That doesn't mean that if you were my sibling, or friend, or business that I wouldn't be entitled to express personal pain. But the magnitude of my pain is nothing next to the pain that's led up to this, and no it wouldn't be appropriate for it to get remotely equal attention. Sure, ideal…

Unfortunately, both you, the media, and the looters keep forgetting the events are, as you said, history.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by throwaway4715 » Fri, May 29, 2020, 5:52 PM UTC

andrewclunn wrote: post #626

fzeroracer wrote: post #609

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This entire event is effectively self-defense from a community that has felt terrorized by the police for decades. It could've been easily prevented by actually arresting someone that committed abject murder, but the city and the police chose to instead defend a man who has killed multiple people in the past and got away with it scott-free. So when people feel like justice no longer exists, there should be no surpris…

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I really hope you don't work with any non-white or Jewish people.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by hadtodoit » Fri, May 29, 2020, 5:52 PM UTC

darepublic wrote: post #573

As someone of mixed ethnicity who, if I was there could easily be victimized by a senseless mob to whom I owe nothing and have committed no crime against.. yea I am not happy with how the mainstream media promotes and covers this story, downplaying the victims of the chaos and sympathizing with outpourings of anger even if illegal. To clarify, looters should not be shot, law should prevail, and the policeman involved…

>looters should not be shot, law should prevail

That is literally the law of the land. Read into castle doctrine and duty to retreat. Business owners have the legal right to defend their life on their property with deadly force if left no choice (i.e. a mob has surrounded you)

At any rate his tweet was ambiguous, he could have meant shooting naturally follows looting, not that he was ordering the guard to execute civilians.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by augustt » Fri, May 29, 2020, 5:54 PM UTC

Thinkx220 wrote: post #655

seaknoll wrote: post #639

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This movement is about centuries of unjustness. To me, it is appropriate that the occasional bystander and business is overlooked. That doesn't mean that if you were my sibling, or friend, or business that I wouldn't be entitled to express personal pain. But the magnitude of my pain is nothing next to the pain that's led up to this, and no it wouldn't be appropriate for it to get remotely equal attention. Sure, ideal…

Unfortunately, both you, the media, and the looters keep forgetting the events are, as you said, history.

It's history and it's the present. You sound like the people who claim racism must be over since Obama was elected.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by anigbrowl » Fri, May 29, 2020, 5:55 PM UTC

annexrichmond wrote: post #640

miguelmota wrote: post #630

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It could have all been ended before the rioting started if the police officer was charged for his actions. Obviously looting is wrong but peaceful protests obviously aren't working either.

He and his colleagues were immediately fired and he has since been charged for his actions. It hasn't even been a week, what more do you want? edit: s/charged/arrested

He's been arrested after 3 days of rioting. I'd like to see the other 3 arrested as well, since they're accessories.

Oh, and I want a perp walk. All the usual stuff that happens to other people. And then it's time to talk about the doctrine of qualified immunity and a whole lot of other things.

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Post by pmorici » Fri, May 29, 2020, 5:55 PM UTC

fzeroracer wrote: post #609

darepublic wrote: post #573

As someone of mixed ethnicity who, if I was there could easily be victimized by a senseless mob to whom I owe nothing and have committed no crime against.. yea I am not happy with how the mainstream media promotes and covers this story, downplaying the victims of the chaos and sympathizing with outpourings of anger even if illegal. To clarify, looters should not be shot, law should prevail, and the policeman involved…

This entire event is effectively self-defense from a community that has felt terrorized by the police for decades. It could've been easily prevented by actually arresting someone that committed abject murder, but the city and the police chose to instead defend a man who has killed multiple people in the past and got away with it scott-free. So when people feel like justice no longer exists, there should be no surpris…

Could it have? I don't know. What is encouraging is that in the past they would have put the officers on paid leave and treated them with deference while the investigation took place. In this case they were promptly fired within 48 hours of the incident by the police chief.

There were also a lot of statements from police leadership that this incident wasn't acceptable or normal police procedure which is a drastic change from in the past where you had people staying silent or even defending and rationalizing the perpetrators actions.

The looting and rioting weaken a cause that after many years of being in the spotlight seemed to have reached a tipping point of overwhelming agreement.