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Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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ProZsolt wrote: post #629
blhack wrote: post #373

It's hilarious to me that their own marketing image has two dongles plugged into the laptop so that the user can still use USB. Apple please for the love of usability: please give me back USB. I AM the pro that you want to feature in every one of your marketing videos. I have a music studio in my house, I build interactive lighting installations for the biggest music festivals in the world, I build custom hardware co…

I'm the opposite. All of my stuff uses USB-C except my MBP. It seems finally I can upgrade that as well. I hate bringing my MBP charge whenever I travel.

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Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by trimbo »

RowanH wrote: post #589
charleshan wrote: post #184

Don't forget that the Touch Bar costs an additional $400 for consumers. The 2015 model was the best MacBook Pro. Perhaps the best laptop yet.

My 2012 Retina was solid, lasted for 7 years till the battery just started going. Had they not glued it in I would have replaced battery and kept going.. hunted for a replacement and really not happy with anything. A compromise was switching to a Razer Blade Base (here in New Zealand we have Consumer Gaurentees Act - so even if it's iffy quality next 5 or so years I can get it fixed for free). From a quality perspect…

> here in New Zealand we have Consumer Gaurentees Act - so even if it's iffy quality next 5 or so years I can get it fixed for free

A quick search reveals the Razer costs around $500 USD more in NZ than in the US (converted prices to USD). The MBP 16" is $400 more. Wouldn't part of the reason it costs more be because of this legislation?

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by GloriousKoji »

daveheq wrote: post #442
throwanem wrote: post #17

I'm astonished and pleased to see they walked back the two worst things about the original Touch Bar MBPs - the lack of a physical Escape key, and the full-size left and right arrow keys. The lack of physical function keys remains regrettable, and the Touch Bar is still no worthy substitute, but perhaps this is a sign that Apple is finally interested in listening to feedback from its long-term customer base, even if…

How 'bout a full-size up and down key? I use those all the time and those scrunched keys are easy to make mistakes on.

The touch pad is ridiculously huge now, going by my greasy finger smears I maybe use only 50% of the total area. They could easy sacrifice some of that real estate to put the touchbar as row above the function keys and feature a full size set of offset arrow keys.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by heavyset_go »

throwanem wrote: post #17

I'm astonished and pleased to see they walked back the two worst things about the original Touch Bar MBPs - the lack of a physical Escape key, and the full-size left and right arrow keys. The lack of physical function keys remains regrettable, and the Touch Bar is still no worthy substitute, but perhaps this is a sign that Apple is finally interested in listening to feedback from its long-term customer base, even if…

> I'm astonished and pleased to see they walked back the two worst things about the original Touch Bar MBPs

Apple still hasn't walked back on mandatory notarization on Catalina.

In January 2020, they're removing the option to run software that isn't locally compiled or notarized[1].

[1] https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=09032019a

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by theslurmmustflo »

trymas wrote: post #399
throwanem wrote: post #17

I'm astonished and pleased to see they walked back the two worst things about the original Touch Bar MBPs - the lack of a physical Escape key, and the full-size left and right arrow keys. The lack of physical function keys remains regrettable, and the Touch Bar is still no worthy substitute, but perhaps this is a sign that Apple is finally interested in listening to feedback from its long-term customer base, even if…

I wonder if the screen reflective coating is better too. AFAIK, since introduction of retina screens of MacBooks (2012) it's a matter of time that the reflective coating will start to peel off and will leave ugly blotches.

There was a recall for this delamination issue in earlier MBPs. I think even the last generation didn't have this problem anymore.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by nordsieck »

anewguy9000 wrote: post #650
throwanem wrote: post #17

I'm astonished and pleased to see they walked back the two worst things about the original Touch Bar MBPs - the lack of a physical Escape key, and the full-size left and right arrow keys. The lack of physical function keys remains regrettable, and the Touch Bar is still no worthy substitute, but perhaps this is a sign that Apple is finally interested in listening to feedback from its long-term customer base, even if…

those were not the worst things. a keyboard that breaks a week after you get it was the worst thing. the second worse thing is this redefinition of a computer into a big ipad. where does my sd card go? i cant plugin to the hdmi tv at a friends or a board room? why does it have a headphone jack? if we dont need it on our phone why do we need it on a laptop (lol)? oh yeah because inch by inch... apple is the epitome of…

> where does my sd card go? i cant plugin to the hdmi tv at a friends or a board room?

Apple has a long and storied history of removing drives and ports that it considers obsolete. No one should be surprised at this point.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by bulldoa »

blhack wrote: post #373

It's hilarious to me that their own marketing image has two dongles plugged into the laptop so that the user can still use USB. Apple please for the love of usability: please give me back USB. I AM the pro that you want to feature in every one of your marketing videos. I have a music studio in my house, I build interactive lighting installations for the biggest music festivals in the world, I build custom hardware co…

That sounds like a super cool job, may I ask how did you started?

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by heavyset_go »

macintux wrote: post #275
insta_anon wrote: post #242

Can someone explain to me how Apple can justify only including a 720p FaceTime HD camera into the "the world’s best pro notebook"? The last iPhone that had this FaceTime camera was the 6S, released in 2015. Since the iPhone 7 (2016) the phones have had at least a 1080p FaceTime camera. Given that FaceTime / Skype calls are such a common use case and rarely anyones uses external webcams anymore, why doesn't Apple use…

A phone camera is used to capture moments you want to preserve for posterity. A laptop camera is used for conference calls and no one needs to see all my facial flaws in 4K detail. So, no, I don’t consider this in any way to be a dealbreaker.

> So, no, I don’t consider this in any way to be a dealbreaker.

There are plenty of premium and luxury laptops at that price point that have HD cameras, and they don't prevent you from running unauthorized software[1].

Even the Surface has better cameras.

[1] https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=09032019a

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by joshklein »

donkeyd wrote: post #587
blhack wrote: post #373

It's hilarious to me that their own marketing image has two dongles plugged into the laptop so that the user can still use USB. Apple please for the love of usability: please give me back USB. I AM the pro that you want to feature in every one of your marketing videos. I have a music studio in my house, I build interactive lighting installations for the biggest music festivals in the world, I build custom hardware co…

Things change, deal with it. I've swapped USB cables to USB-C cables. Only USB drives, which i rarely use anymore require an adapter. Meanwhile, I can use all 4 ports to: - Run a display - Charge my laptop - Charge a phone - Connect a drive I can even use a single port to both charge the laptop and run a screen with multiple USB devices attached to it. I now need to daisy chain converters to use my PS/2 mouse on my M…

I agree that it would be nice if everything were USB-C, including my 2019 iPhone XS, which I connect to my 2017 MBP with a third-party adapter.
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